tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post1216967890207415921..comments2023-05-16T04:54:14.105-05:00Comments on The SageWay Express: Open DiscussionSagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14329903374007439944noreply@blogger.comBlogger162125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-1259074644136761072016-12-09T13:29:51.916-06:002016-12-09T13:29:51.916-06:00I just realized I said "as a kid" as if ...I just realized I said "as a kid" as if Collin still isn't a kid lol. My fault. What I should've said was "when he was younger" <br /><br />-Kendall Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-9031635989056625462016-12-09T13:25:09.878-06:002016-12-09T13:25:09.878-06:00Here's my thing about what's going on with...Here's my thing about what's going on with Collin. This is just a regurgitation of thoughts. <br /><br />I have no idea because I don't live with the family. And it's simply none of my business. But, I do think his issues may have been something that could be in the family (passed down). Do I think Kate is the sole reason for his issues now? No. BUT I do think Collin needed more individualized attention even from the time when he was younger. From the times when Collin was younger and received one on one time with either parent, they both mentioned how talkative he was once he was alone (I get that because I am the same way). I believe Collin would get frustrated with not getting enough attention. He needed it. I believe Kate when she says Collin had social issues because of how aggressive he was when he was a kid and what happened in 2010. At this point, I can only hope for the best for Collin because he deserves it. He seems like such a sweet, intelligent, smart kid. <br /><br />-Kendall Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-70924659249098719172016-12-09T13:11:19.332-06:002016-12-09T13:11:19.332-06:00Does that apply to Jon masturbating on CT? Or did ...Does that apply to Jon masturbating on CT? Or did you see<br />his c*ck in his hand?<br /><br />xxxx<br /><br />After his initial lie, Jon admitted to what he was doing. It was discussed in depth in one of the group therapy sessions. <br />His kids must have been so proud. merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-7788472800289385572016-12-09T12:00:30.870-06:002016-12-09T12:00:30.870-06:00Nameless, I forgot about that! So much Bs.
It si...Nameless, I forgot about that! So much Bs. <br /><br />It sickens me how they go on and on about Collin. Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-3592033398373907792016-12-09T11:54:10.215-06:002016-12-09T11:54:10.215-06:00Yes, Sage, it was obvious.
So Sue_Buddy, did yo...Yes, Sage, it was obvious. <br /><br />So Sue_Buddy, did you see Kate's naked breasts and girly bits when you called the Red Cross to complain about her horribly inappropriate and coquettish blanket photo that you and everyone at the BL's went ape shit over because you were sure she was naked under it? Talk about seeing what you want to see... Nameless in LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-11909124201045503262016-12-09T10:55:11.232-06:002016-12-09T10:55:11.232-06:00It was obvious what he was doing and his girlfrien...It was obvious what he was doing and his girlfriend at the time, Liz, saw it too. No, it is not what I wanted to see. Jon knew he was on camera and that in and of itself is pretty sick.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-56646626965086126392016-12-09T09:27:21.150-06:002016-12-09T09:27:21.150-06:00Sage said..You can look at pictures read things an...Sage said..You can look at pictures read things and put your own spin on it. People see what they want to see and find what they want to find.<br /><br />That's true. It's been documented many tim<br />Does that apply to Jon masturbating on CT? Or did you see<br /> his c*ck in his hand?<br /><br />Sue_BuddySue_Buddynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-31915144521437515782016-12-08T08:20:41.939-06:002016-12-08T08:20:41.939-06:00You're right, Par.
While reading at Becks yes...You're right, Par.<br /><br />While reading at Becks yesterday it came to me it is like these fake news sites that have popped up. It is how 'pizzagate' came to be. You can look at pictures read things and put your own spin on it. People see what they want to see and find what they want to find.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-35478596403485993702016-12-08T05:09:37.833-06:002016-12-08T05:09:37.833-06:00I think the crux of the situation is Kate is not s...I think the crux of the situation is Kate is not some all powerful goddess who can defy court rulings and get away with it. There is a reason why the court has allowed Kate to keep Information on Colin from Jon: either Jon has never really pursued the issue with court or the court has legitimate reason to fear that Jon would reveal the location publicaly which could potentially cause the harm to others st the facility. The last thing anyone at such a facility needs is swarms of tabloid reporters harassing them. PARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640267099424891666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-1022315259922934222016-12-07T19:54:10.132-06:002016-12-07T19:54:10.132-06:00I just posted a response to "Anonymous" ...I just posted a response to "Anonymous" before my response to Kendall, and it's disappeared. I know that happens sometimes. Maybe it's a sign to be brief. I'll try again.<br /><br />Anonymous:<br /><br />Can you acknowledge that Kate is keeping Collin's whereabouts from Jon because she can? If she couldn't then she would have been ordered by the courts to tell Jon. I give Jon the benefit of the doubt that he had his lawyers file papers with the courts to get information on his son's location and condition, and didn't just complain about not knowing to ET or InTouch. <br /><br />He's filed for joint custody, and what will be will be. I don't know that he agreed to give Kate full custody, I've only heard about that he allegedly gave up having a say in his kids' lives in order to not pay CS. I don't know if that's true. I think that ideally all the kids should see their father, but I think it's their choice, since some of them do seem to see Jon regularly. Collin's situation is different now, but it's my hope that everything is resolved in the kids' best interests. If right now Kate is the only one who has a say in what her kids do then it must be because someone in authority (a Judge) has decided that it was in the kids' best interests.<br /><br />Yes, I am interested in the Gosselin family. I want them to be happy and I think their mother is doing her best, that doesn't mean I think she always does the right thing, but I think she does want what's best for her children. Frankly, I don't think that Jon and Kate's issues with each other are ever going to be resolved. They will probably always be at odds, because there's no trust there.Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-18722828230394479992016-12-07T19:37:00.992-06:002016-12-07T19:37:00.992-06:00Kendall,
I agree with you. Glad to see someone t...Kendall,<br /><br />I agree with you. Glad to see someone talking about the episode. It's great to see the kids growing up and having a good time. Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-11916340374494070652016-12-07T15:41:47.180-06:002016-12-07T15:41:47.180-06:00Really, I post everything about Kate. I am not hu...Really, I post everything about Kate. I am not hurting the kids by judging their shrew of a mother. By the same token, it's none of your business either. Keep on defending her, that's what you do best. As for volunteering, I do that. Just because we have differing opinions doesn't mean a thing, except you are judgmental against anyone saying anything at all about Kate. <br /><br />I love all the anger comments by you on this group. I am not angry, that is way too much trouble. You on the other hand, throw that around as though it makes you superior. Arrogance will take you down every time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-43025970256549961152016-12-07T14:21:04.336-06:002016-12-07T14:21:04.336-06:00Anonymous,
Anger management coming from you is ju...Anonymous,<br /><br />Anger management coming from you is just a LOL comment. You follow and post EVERYTHING about Kate. Yes, you talk about the kids, judging Kate is hurting the kids. It's none of your business, maybe you should invest your time in helping a shelter, community, homeless, etc. With all of your knowledge you would probably shine to everyone. :) Farklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-82321146340450978672016-12-07T11:47:16.203-06:002016-12-07T11:47:16.203-06:00I really liked this episode. I thought it was real...I really liked this episode. I thought it was really cute. I really liked the cooking part and the dinner part. The etiquette class was fun too. Aaden was hilarious when he just kept laughing. Chef Toya Boudy seemed to be really energetic and liked working with Kate and the kids. On Twitter she commented on how strong Kate is and that the kids were so cool. The kids seemed to enjoy their time with her too. It was overall just a really good episode. <br /><br />-Kendall Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-7796601624626242512016-12-07T10:57:44.173-06:002016-12-07T10:57:44.173-06:00BTW, haven't watched any of her shows in a lon...BTW, haven't watched any of her shows in a long time, so not miserable here. <br /><br />Well balanced? Now that is truly funny!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-76118657280914974992016-12-07T10:55:41.882-06:002016-12-07T10:55:41.882-06:00Oh, I've read your 'facts' Micha. I d...Oh, I've read your 'facts' Micha. I don't believe I've called you ignorant. So, even though the rules say all points of view are welcome, that must not be so. The 'fact' is no one knows the inner workings of their lives. You don't know mine but you accuse me of being ignorant and that obviously I can't read and comprehend things. Not so, we just have different opinions and viewpoints. You, on the other hand, won't even consider that Kate is in the wrong here, that she has been keeping Colin from Jon and even though yes, she does have custody, not disputing that at all, but even then that doesn't mean the other parent has no rights at all. I will say that I have no idea what Jon is trying to do. You're right, so far it sounds like all he is doing is trying to change the custody arrangement. I would imagine, however, if he is trying to find Colin, get approval from the court to see him and possibly have custody of him that that information is being kept under cover. Also, courts take forever to do anything. I don't hate Jon nor do I see him as a saint, not by a long shot. He should never have agreed to her having full custody. Whatever his reasons, he did. Him, no one else. What a fool he was for doing that. I don't see how anyone could support that behavior. <br /><br />No ma'am, I don't know everything and I never said I did. Of course, I'm interested in 'these people', we all are, you included or neither of us would be commenting on them. I've watched them since the beginning and whenever I see her in the news, it peaks my interest to see what's happening now. The majority of time they never even come to mind. Now that she's back for a short while she's in the news. That's it, nothing deep and dark about my interest and no, I don't like her but I don't wish harm to her either. Because she is their mother and they love her. <br /><br />Text book study: Wow, just wow. I like to hurt kids? No I definitely do not. I have not made one vicious post about the kids. I have only said I feel sorry for them. You need some anger management skills. And yes, I have met Kate, not at a book signing or on one of their many begging for money crusades at the churches, all the while moving into a million dollar house. See, I also know that Jon was part of all that, that's not just on Kate. So, why don't you get your 'facts' straight before you open your mouth.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-85551411716929679682016-12-07T09:08:10.432-06:002016-12-07T09:08:10.432-06:00I did watch last night's episode and the kids ...I did watch last night's episode and the kids were funny, they seemed to have a great time - including Collin. They did volunteer work. They visited a place that had some interesting bugs, where Kate embarrassed them by freaking out - which, (whether a hater wants to acknowledge or not) is typical preteen and teen behavior. They went to etiquette class, and their "teacher" said they were already quite well informed about etiquette. They ate beignets and had a nice meal where they demonstrated some of their new found knowledge of "etiquette," and even ate snails, which I thought surprising since it's not exactly typical American cuisine. <br /><br />It was a great episode, and I'm sure that the well balanced people who saw the episode will say so, while any miserable people who watched every moment of it will find a way to say that the kids perfectly miserable, even though they had fun and experienced new things. Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-65347515096451002142016-12-07T08:55:41.543-06:002016-12-07T08:55:41.543-06:00I don't hate Jon, and what's gone wrong? ...I don't hate Jon, and what's gone wrong? ONE of Jon and Kate's 8 kids has some issue, we don't know what it is, and he's away getting help. Sounds like someone's doing something right, because a kid needs help and he's getting help. Is that "wrong" in some way? Every kid is different, not every family can have the good fortune to have 8 kids and have all those kids be well. That's life, that's Kate's life with her kids, and she's doing what she can. <br /><br />I'm glad that Jon is finally (allegedly) doing more than just talk about what he wants for his kids. It's been too many years of Jon saying he's going to do something. Now he apparently is doing something. It's interesting that the "something" that he is doing is just going to court to get equal time with the kids. He doesn't seem to think the kids are in urgent need of being rescued from their mother. If he wants an equal say in what they do, honestly I don't know why it hasn't always been that way. What did he do to lose that right and what is he doing now that makes him think he can get that right back? What's changed? I don't know, but we'll see - maybe, if this all actually goes to court. <br /><br />You are seriously asking what are the facts? Really, you need to have that typed out again, you can't just read what I typed already? You did read it, you just won't acknowledge it. Is going in circles some sort of sport for you? It's in two previous comments I wrote. Go back and read them or don't. Whichever.<br /><br />You said:<br /><br /><b> but for Kate to keep Colin away from Jon and put him in therapy without telling him was cruel</b><br /><br />This is a prime example of your ignorance. You have no idea what's going on, you don't know why Kate has kept the information from Jon you just assume that no matter what, Jon "deserves" to know where Collin is. If Kate can do this it's because some court has made it so. If a court of law decides that Kate doesn't have to tell Jon where Collin is, then who are you to say otherwise, who is anybody to say otherwise? The courts have all the pertinent facts, you have your speculation and your uninformed opinion, apparently that all parents should know where their kids are regardless of what kind of custody they've had of those kids, or what relationship they've had. You're generalizing because it suits your frame of mind, which seems to be Jon is a victim, and Kate is wrong. There couldn't be any legitimate reason for Jon not to have any access to Collin? The courts disagree with you, but of course you're still right, courts are wrong, even though they must have access to information, doctor's reports, assessments, and you don't. <br /><br />Yeah, no therapy for you. You know everything.<br /><br />Are things not "settled down" somehow? What's not settled, really? Things are pending for Jon, but what's there to think about? Is Jon and Kate affecting your life in some way right now? You're interested in something about these people, that's why you're here. You could just as easily read about whatever new information comes out once it's released. Just wait and go on without your speculating and badmouthing Kate for her parenting. You like to think about Kate and what you think might be going on with her, and you like to talk about it. You're using this "situation" as your excuse, when you don't need one. Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-81549729232814223042016-12-06T22:50:45.793-06:002016-12-06T22:50:45.793-06:00Anon,
Becks did have a birth fetish site. We had ...Anon,<br /><br />Becks did have a birth fetish site. We had links to it years ago and it is now cleaned up. We have talked about this for years. Becks has never mentioned it...not even in denial. Ask her and see what response you get.<br /><br />Becks is not what she wants all of you to think. She REALLY does need therapy.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-58156670719401376482016-12-06T22:42:22.085-06:002016-12-06T22:42:22.085-06:00Oh now she has met Kate, ROTF.
Was this a book si...Oh now she has met Kate, ROTF.<br /><br />Was this a book signing?<br /><br />Was this in a huge group of people when J/K were on the speaking tour? <br /><br />OMG, the crazy mind works in mysteries ways. <br /><br />Also, YOU have no idea what kind of school Colin is attending, spreading gossip is what you do best, you like to hurt kids with your vicious posts about them. How sad.<br /><br />You would be a therapists nightmare, working with several personalities would be a challenge.Text book study onlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-34067656282889527502016-12-06T22:41:22.469-06:002016-12-06T22:41:22.469-06:00So Anon...guess what? I agree with your last comme...So Anon...guess what? I agree with your last comment!<br /><br />We are not a Kate fan site. I'm with nameless, I haven't watched an episode either. None of us knows what is going on with Collin or for that matter with Jon and Kate. What we do know is Kate has full legal and physical custody and that says something. <br /><br />Kate is no saint but she isn't the devil either. Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-39233732561569059142016-12-06T21:59:58.520-06:002016-12-06T21:59:58.520-06:00You know what Nameless? I agree with most of what...You know what Nameless? I agree with most of what you said. But first off, I guess I do talk a lot. <br /><br />I didn't say anyone here wanted Kate to stay on TV, I just said I don't care if she does or not. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. <br /><br />And yes, they do dissect every second of footage, Becks is online way too often but I do think she knows the law and that she works in family law and therefore can say a few things that make sense. I despise her recaps. They are just absurdly long. Tucker's is just funny with her words she tries to impress with and the fact that she is always online.. But by far, the worst is GollyGee/Redbird and all the rest of her aliases. Her suppositions are always beyond the pale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-62909966835442953802016-12-06T21:50:33.622-06:002016-12-06T21:50:33.622-06:00For someone who "doesn't care" you s...For someone who "doesn't care" you sure have a lot to say. <br /><br />Please find me one person here who has said they want Kate to stay on TV for the rest of her life. I, for one, haven't even seen an episode this season. The ones who desperately want Kate to remain on TV are your friends at the BL's. They dissect every second of footage. What would the lawyer do with her time if she couldn't spend her vacation writing her ridiculous recaps that are longer than the shows themselves? What would Tucker's Mom do if she didn't spend hours a day on that blog? (Maybe she'd spend even more time memorizing her thesaurus.) Nameless in LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-60450533510494711912016-12-06T21:10:40.746-06:002016-12-06T21:10:40.746-06:00Good grief, if anyone is angry and living in denia...Good grief, if anyone is angry and living in denial it is you! As for Jon, I have no idea what he is doing or will do. I do not think he is all that and a bag of chips. He's made tons of mistakes but for Kate to keep Colin away from Jon and put him in therapy without telling him was cruel. You can hate Jon all you want, but he is not responsible for everything that has gone wrong. Oh well, none so blind as they say. Go on and watch Kate, she's on TV right now.<br /> <br />And what, pray tell, would be the 'facts' that I should acknowledge? Your version of the 'facts'? Sure and what is so funny is you think we all say the same things again and again and you do the very same thing, over and over. You have no idea or proven fact that Kate has been cleared of all charges against her. There is no way you know any more than any of the rest of us. I don't know and you don't know. <br /><br />As for a breath of fresh air, I'm sure you have the corner on the market on that. LOL!! I'm pretty normal because I don't care if Kate stays on TV for the rest of her life. I'm only around when she gets herself in the news again. Not the Jon got her there, but her. Then when things settle down I go right on with my normal life without even thinking about Kate. Believe me or not, I don't care. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-324294476666753662016-12-06T20:15:11.955-06:002016-12-06T20:15:11.955-06:00Sure you do, Anonymous. You sound like a breath o...Sure you do, Anonymous. You sound like a breath of fresh air and a well adjusted person who presumes the worst about a woman instead of acknowledging the facts. Why deal in facts when you can make up the worst scenarios and talk about them over and over again? Why see that Jon doesn't want full custody of his kids for a reason when you can ignore that and call Kate an abuser? Every alleged investigation into Kate's parenting turned up nothing and Jon is in no rush to get his kids out of Kate's house, but you know better. After all, you met Kate. So you must know better than all these people, right? Sure. <br /><br />Perfectly normal and well adjusted, you are. <br /><br /><br />If there's something to see it will be seen. The denial game is your thing. You deny the facts in favor of the thinking the worst. You seem to thrive on it. And no doubt you are in denial about the denial. <br /><br />Yeah, but you don't need any help. That's all perfectly normal and well adjusted behavior. Have fun with that.Michanoreply@blogger.com