tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post8249694649764394192..comments2023-05-16T04:54:14.105-05:00Comments on The SageWay Express: Merry Christmas....Open DiscussionSagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14329903374007439944noreply@blogger.comBlogger137125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-88176589058775658342017-01-17T11:24:42.405-06:002017-01-17T11:24:42.405-06:00Well, the new season is over. Eight whole shows. ...Well, the new season is over. Eight whole shows. Hardly the super invasion of privacy that the bleeps claim. It is a long time between seasons, so they are right back to conspiracy theories of fake dogs and reliving the divorce saga days. <br /><br />RoxyHelen somehow thinks that the dog video (yes, that old video) proves how far Kate was willing to go to continue filming. Perhaps, if Jon didn't want crucified, he and Hoffman shouldn't have shot and sold the story. <br />Kids love it when their dad uses them as tabloid fodder to bash their mom, right? Especially, when their pets are being hauled away.<br /><br />xxxxxxxxx<br /><br />RoxyHelen said... 84<br /><br /> Here's the video proving Jon send the dogs away. For anyone who wasn't around back then, the video also shows how the media crucified Jon, calling him an unfit father for returning the dogs to the breeder and for having an affair. Don't get me wrong, even if Jon did cheat on Kate(which I doubt), yes it would be bad but how does that make him an unfit father? It would make him an unfit husband if anything. Anyways, goes to show how far Kate was willing to go to continue filming.<br /><br /> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1nfxFSSko<br /> January 17, 2017 at 1:45 AM merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-11069958568093742542017-01-17T08:27:47.699-06:002017-01-17T08:27:47.699-06:00GollyGee is insane. It's also amusing when som...GollyGee is insane. It's also amusing when some of the posters on the blog even find her accusations to be over the top too.<br /><br />-ajwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-37844797138678225242017-01-15T16:50:37.678-06:002017-01-15T16:50:37.678-06:00Mountaingirllake is harassing Kate on her IG. Also...Mountaingirllake is harassing Kate on her IG. Also know as Golly Gee, Redbird, LukeBandit. She's getting crazier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-62818536083929314262017-01-15T16:18:35.725-06:002017-01-15T16:18:35.725-06:00Nice try - but it was right on the sign in the epi...Nice try - but it was right on the sign in the episode and I like Nine West, so I sort of know the price point.<br /><br />Have a nice day!PJ's mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229708511461251381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-86175728889621975722017-01-15T15:37:35.101-06:002017-01-15T15:37:35.101-06:00Good Golly Gosh P J! Just imagine knowing a pair o...Good Golly Gosh P J! Just imagine knowing a pair of Nine West shoes were SIXTY dollars 7 yrs ago, makes you uh, um, geez, sooo frigging whatever, I guess! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-24384163864556281812017-01-14T16:24:57.734-06:002017-01-14T16:24:57.734-06:00GollyGee/Redbird is going on about the $600 shoes ...GollyGee/Redbird is going on about the $600 shoes again, from a scene that was probably 7 years ago. They were Nine West, SIXTY dollars! Adding an extra zero does not make them $600 shoes. Lol. She is too much. PJ's mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229708511461251381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-33845862959430376202017-01-13T21:58:05.789-06:002017-01-13T21:58:05.789-06:00BL and her group aren't reasonable or rational...BL and her group aren't reasonable or rational. They take a small detail and create crazy scenarios around the detail. The most important detail in the Gosselin saga, that Kate has custody of her kids and is the only one who has a say in what they do, never seems to penetrate their thoughts at all. They can't seem capable of acknowledging that Kate has this sole say in her kids' lives for reason. No, any court that has decided this is the way it should be is wrong - everyone is being fooled and only BL and her wacky bunch know what's best for these kids whom they've watched on TV for years. <br /><br />I'd say it's a good thing if BL doesn't volunteer with any children's organization. I doubt someone with her mindset could be helpful or could be helped. Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-14190544515992641932017-01-13T21:20:43.666-06:002017-01-13T21:20:43.666-06:00Paper plate freak tells us all we need to know. RO...Paper plate freak tells us all we need to know. ROTF.Farklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-6276610274977574842017-01-13T21:19:25.548-06:002017-01-13T21:19:25.548-06:00Since the BL has no kids, she wants to parent ever...Since the BL has no kids, she wants to parent everyone's kids with no medical or physical charts. She is a busy body nobody. It's sad she doesn't volunteer with a children's organization to know the difference. One size will never fit all, she is a moron.Farklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-16585495310635902282017-01-13T12:36:04.222-06:002017-01-13T12:36:04.222-06:00Merryway, They will never acknowledge what you are...Merryway, They will never acknowledge what you are saying. It doesn't fit with their agenda. (Glad that your daughter is doing so well!) <br /><br />Why is this Paper Plates freak begging people to watch a specific scene from a couple of years ago? What does she think that will accomplish? Maybe they should alert Jon's attorney to use this incredibly telling scene in court. <br /><br />****************************<br /> Paper Plates and Paper Towels Forever-really pisses me off said... 107<br />I've been lurking for the past 2 years. Was a long time poster. Have decided to come back into the fold. I just watched the turning 40 episode again after some time. I urge everyone to watch the part where Kate and Deanna are at the Mexican restaurant. Kate appears a bit loopy after her bubble gum martini and is now on a glass of wine. Deanna is yammering on about some stupid shit regarding their friendship and who would of thought blahbady blah blah. Kate makes a comment in response which is so telling. Can't remember the words that she spoke but the look on her face when she said it is, 'I am saddled with these kids forever' and it is not a lovely look, believe me. Please. Watch this scene. It is incredibly telling. I replayed it a few times and could not believe what I was seeing. Kind of shocked me that this shrew did not have the wherewithal to hold back her emotions on camera. Booze. The Ultimate Truth Serum.<br />Paper Plates Forever.Nameless in LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-38010595508655146962017-01-11T11:28:11.452-06:002017-01-11T11:28:11.452-06:00Oh good grief, the kids have two parents. I would ...Oh good grief, the kids have two parents. I would think most normal people who watch the show feel bad for Collin and his family. There is no need for the wailing and gnashing of teeth that Bl's group feels the need to indulge in on a daily basis.<br /><br />xxxxxxxxx<br /><br />FlimsyFlamsy said... 147<br /><br /> bm (#141), isn't it curious how we bitter, black-hearted busybodies are feeling such pain and sadness about C, but the fans aren't?<br /> January 11, 2017 at 8:21 AM <br /><br />xxxxxxxxxxx<br /><br /><br />Having no idea what Collin's condition might be, I've wondered how having 7 siblings affects his situation. Not, that there's a solution for that, it's just a family thing.<br /><br />I've shared on IW that my daughter was born with problems. The mental problems didn't get recognized until she was about 3yo. When she was 5yo, I was so afraid for her future. Luckily, at 13, she has outgrown every bit of it. Sooooooo lucky.<br /><br />A friend of mine had a boy close to the same age as my daughter. He had similar problems but a bit more extreme. His treatment started young and was consistent. He had an IEP that often isolated him to his own classroom, had been hospitalized for short terms, was violent with no impulse control. His medication made him feel hungry and affected his weight. <br />He had an older and younger sib who had no such problems. When he was 11, his mother was advised to start checking out residency programs for when he was a bit older. She knew that was going to be his future because his progress was almost nil. Boys seem to fair so much worse when it comes to some diagnosis. Anyways, in supporting each other, we used to talk about the difference in our households. I was able to control my daughter's environment and keep it calm. My daughter had no siblings at home to stimulate triggers or push her buttons. When she had meltdown, there was no one else to which I had to give attention, feed or drive somewhere. I didn't have to worry about another child at home being hurt when my daughter had an outburst. Both of our situations were hard, but I had it a lot easier than my friend.<br /><br />Bleeps need to realize: Not every problem is fixable. Love does not heal everything. There is no shame in mental illness or needing help.<br /><br />merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-38262034324235891602017-01-10T22:16:27.677-06:002017-01-10T22:16:27.677-06:00It's been confirmed that the episode was filme...It's been confirmed that the episode was filmed last January (a fan asked if it was filmed on 1/31/16 bc they saw the date on the register in the target scene on the show). <br /><br />-Kendall Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-91127373889003366532017-01-10T21:34:25.242-06:002017-01-10T21:34:25.242-06:00I wonder when tonight's episode was filmed. Co...I wonder when tonight's episode was filmed. Collin is there. And he's also on the couch interviews. They're wearing long sleeves on the couch. Francienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-9283333440972281502017-01-10T19:31:34.055-06:002017-01-10T19:31:34.055-06:00When someone posted an instagram link, she even sa...When someone posted an instagram link, she even said the family of the hairdresser friend were ugly. Would they be ugly if they weren't related to Kate's friend? Or would it just not be OK to say?<br /><br />Very mean.PJ's mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229708511461251381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-34430983080273850952017-01-10T19:25:54.698-06:002017-01-10T19:25:54.698-06:00Maybe the BL is the real child abuser in life, she...Maybe the BL is the real child abuser in life, she targets kids on her blog. <br /><br />Burgers or cakes, she's such a child. LOL. Man the dims over there sure let her put them down. Farklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-16393271315004446172017-01-10T15:11:53.540-06:002017-01-10T15:11:53.540-06:00Seriously nuts. Any day now they will be demandin...Seriously nuts. Any day now they will be demanding that Kate post a pic of Collin with holding a newspaper with the current date to prove that he's alive, and then will send the pic to the FBI for forensic analysis to remove all doubt about whether it's Photoshopped. <br /><br />I have no doubt that one or more of these loons has contacted the facility demanding proof that Collin is okay or has filed a CPS report. Nameless in LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-88448431240843445532017-01-09T00:05:34.298-06:002017-01-09T00:05:34.298-06:00They are truly nuts! I hope none of the Gosselin k...They are truly nuts! I hope none of the Gosselin kids ever stumble upon the have blog that is Becks. I sometimes wonder if it really isn't an online support group for the delusional.<br /><br />//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////<br /><br />Mel has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Sweet 16 1/3/2017": <br /><br />I'd just be happy to know that Colin is alive and well. And no, I'm not taking TFW's word for it.<br /><br />No one's seen or heard from the little guy for months. How does anyone know that he's alive and well? Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-29974373540154697132017-01-08T18:24:41.696-06:002017-01-08T18:24:41.696-06:00These are truly twisted people. Attempting to jus...These are truly twisted people. Attempting to justify their obsession over something that is absolutely not their business by claiming some noble agenda is disgusting. They don't give a crap about Collin. They just want to see his mother brought down and if he has to be used to achieve that objective, so be it. <br /><br />In far more important news, through some detective work by someone with waaaayyyy too much time on her hands, it has been discovered that the salmon burger recipe was from Blue Apron. And according to the BL, those were salmon CAKES not BURGERS. Make a note of that, people, so you do not make the same mistake. <br />*************************<br />Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 196<br /><br /><br />Apples and oranges. Penn State got national exposure, millions more watched Penn State games than watch Kate. LOL Kate just doesn't rate the exposure necessary to be brought down. <br /><br /><br />&&&<br /><br />Not really apples and oranges at all. The point is that when people remain silent when kids are getting hurt, it's wrong. It doesn't matter if it's one kid, 20 kids; it doesn't matter if it's a giant institution doing it or just one mother, not ONE child should ever be exploited, abused or hurt. <br /><br />This is the logical fallacy argument that because there are bigger, badder things out there in the world, we should just move on from Kate. But no matter what cause you're interested in, you can ALWAYS find something worse, so that's pretty circular logic that with a sweeping brush discounts just about everybody.<br /><br />It MATTERS that Kate is being called out for the child exploiter she is, even if it only matters for eight kids, one kid, or no kid at all. It's important to a lot of people to point out all the ways this is wrong, regardless of the outcome, although I think everyone is hoping for a better one that what has happened so far. Please don't scold people for taking an interest in one sweet, abused child's outcome. It's a manifestation of all the warnings and predictions we made all this time. There's an unfortunate "I told you so" component to this that one can only dare hope other parents who may be considering exploiting their kids notice.<br />******************<br />Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 187<br /><br />So I googled Blue Apron salmon burgers, and sure enough, they have a recipe where you cook the salmon first!! Apparently adding eggs to the cooked salmon mixture helps to keep them moist.<br /><br /><br />&&&&<br /><br />Oh, Blue Apron. I would argue if you add eggs to it that makes them salmon CAKES, not burgers. <br /><br />Pet peeve, when people use the wrong name for food.<br /><br />Speaking of salmon cakes, I really LOVE this recipe, made it several times:<br /><br />http://www.realsimple.com/food-recipes/browse-all-recipes/dijon-salmon-cakes-couscousNameless in LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-32327326060975217112017-01-08T12:37:49.518-06:002017-01-08T12:37:49.518-06:00Micha, I agree with you too. Collin disappearing f...Micha, I agree with you too. Collin disappearing from the show needed to be explained. Kate's revealed little other than Collin is away getting help.<br /><br />PJ's momma, it's disgusting how they want the children to be abused.<br /><br />Meanwhile, BL (an attorney) doesn't let things such as pesky facts get in her way. As PAR pointed out, the family has been observed by the court and CPS and Kate still has legal and physical custody. <br /><br />They want to ignore that somewhere along the way Jon either gave up or lost rights.<br /><br />I guess BL just runs around accusing anyone she pleases. What a pathetic way to rationalize gossiping about a little boy so you can hate on his mother.<br /><br />xxxxxxxxx<br /><br />Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 199<br /><br /> Child abusers count on you never having enough facts to really call them out. That's why they keep it so hidden and so shameful.<br /> January 7, 2017 at 9:59 PM merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-69294412491421793302017-01-08T11:56:29.738-06:002017-01-08T11:56:29.738-06:00It does bother me that the info was released - in ...It does bother me that the info was released - in a magazine. However, it is what it is and not much else has been said, which is good. What bothers me is that those people WANT Colin to be in the WORST possible place, they WANT him to have been removed from the home against Kate's will, they WANT Colin to be with Jon. Very little has been revealed. The young man is being treated. That's a good thing. I have a brother who needed treatment 30 years ago. You don't just 'take' them there. It is prescribed. You don't just 'drop in' to see them. Sometimes visits are a reward. Sometimes visits can set treatment back a lot. The treatment centers are full of professionals who know what they are doing. Colin 'reporting abuse' was likely drawn out by a counselor, if it happened at all. A couple of people actually think they live in Kate's head or Colin's head and know the motivation behind every single aspect of this boy's treatment and life, and declare everything as fact. When someone pushes back, they defend their 'right to know' because the mom revealed the info in the first place. Colin is a real person with apparently real issues and it is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS! They would not want their issues or issues of their kids splashed all over and speculated about, especially by people who don't like them and just want to lay blame. It's really unbelievable.PJ's mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12229708511461251381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-78786236827657894992017-01-08T11:06:58.450-06:002017-01-08T11:06:58.450-06:00But the whole "fact" is that his own mot...<b>But the whole "fact" is that his own mother didn't respect that child's privacy by bringing the subject up in the first place. How does that not bother you? Ask yourself why she felt it was necessary to do so in the first place. If she hadn't said anything, we wouldn't have known anything was wrong.</b><br /><br />I don't know if this is a "fact," but it seems that Kate's main source of income is from doing the show "Kate Plus 8." This is how she supports her family and provides the lifestyle that they have become accustomed to. <b>Now, many think that this in and of itself shows a disregard for the privacy of all her kids. Her decision, her doing as of 2009. Before that both Jon and Kate made that decision for their kids. They decided to put their lives on TV instead of living privately. The reason we know of the existence and life of these 8 kids is because of both Jon and Kate. That's a fact.</b> <br /><br />People have a right to their opinion. Kate has a right to do what she wants with her kids as long as she's not breaking any laws. If there comes a time when the kids say they resent Kate for the decisions she made for them to do this show instead of giving them a life where they have 100% privacy where no one has ever heard of them, she'll have to deal with it. Maybe that day will never come. Maybe it has come and gone. We don't know. <br /><br />If Jon had the legal right to stop Kate from doing anything, I think he'd get in there and stop her. He's not stopping her because he can't stop her. Maybe he doesn't want to stop her that much anyway. It benefits Jon that his kids are financially cared for without him contributing much to their care and feeding and etc. Maybe that's why he hasn't seemed to try very hard to do anything to stop Kate and the kids from filming Kate Plus 8 for years. <br /><br />Some might think that Kate got in front of this particular situation with Collin and revealed it to the press before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. I think it's possible that's the reason. Maybe she did it because the fact is that there were episodes of Kate Plus 8 ready to be aired that Collin was not a part of, and she wanted to let the public know why ahead of time. If it was just sprung on viewers once the first episode without Collin aired, that would have been much more controversial. She's revealed very little, just that he has special needs that she can't manage, and he is somewhere getting help for those needs. Very vague, nothing to be ashamed of. Kate still is in control of maintaining the amount of privacy she wants for her kids, and as of now it's still her choice. <br /><br />Like it or not.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Michanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-52119379313652624742017-01-08T06:30:01.998-06:002017-01-08T06:30:01.998-06:00You don't get the picture ... at lest as I see...You don't get the picture ... at lest as I see it. I don't have strong feelings about either Kate or Jon. I do have strong feelings about the Internet bullying that goes on at 15 minutes and on twitter. I also have strong feelings about the speculation and innuendo that goes on at 15 minutes, they have been experts at propagating fake news long before that term became popular this year.<br /><br />As for the Gosselins, these are the facts that I accept because I don't have to rely on biased opinion to know them. There are reasonable conclusions that can be drawn from them.<br /><br />Facts:<br /><br />1) Kate has sole legal custody and primary physical custody of the eight children. Jon has visitation with 4 of the kids. This has not changed as of New Years when Jon shared his pictures of the children.<br />2. The family has been observed by the courts and CPS for years and fact number 1 hasn't changed. <br /><br />Conclusions:<br /><br />The logical conclusion that I draw from these facts is that the courts and CPS do not believe the kids are in danger or should be removed from their mothers care. The courts do not believe that Jon is the better parent or even an equally good parent because they have not awarded joint legal custody or equal time physical custody. Kate is not in violation of court orders because nothing has changed in either legal or physical custody arrangements.<br /><br /><br />Facts:<br /><br />1. The children have stability in their lives. They live in the same house they did before the divorce; they go to the same school they did before the divorce. (Other than Collin for now.)<br />2. This is ensured by Kate alone as no child support is paid by Jon.<br />3. Kate has continued allow the family to participate in filming a reality TV show and done interviews with magazines like people.<br /><br />Conclusion:<br /><br />Stability in a child's life after a divorce a good thing for the children. Kate is raising a family of 8 kids with no financial support from their father. I can't think of a way that I could support 8 children in a private school and a spacious home and I have far more education tthan Kate. While filming a reality show may not make for an ideal childhood, Kate is doing what she needs to keep the children in the home and school they have been in for years. I would love it if Kate had the means and ability to do this without filming the kids but she doesn't.<br /><br />Facts:<br />1. Both parents have publicly disparaged each other and both parents make money from talking about the kids to magazines and/or tabloids.<br />2. The media has identified "Kate" as a monster Momsnd Jon sells stories that feed that image.<br />3. Robert Hoffman contributed to the vilification of Kate through his self published book.<br />4. The book did contain information from Kate's journals that Hoffman had no business accessing or using regardless of how he obtained them.<br />4. Leading up to publication of the book, Hoffman taunted and bullied Kate on the Internet.<br /><br />Conclusions:<br /><br />It would be great if neither parent discussed the kids or each other in media. It is bullshit that Robert Hoffman motivation was to help the kids. His motivation was to hurt Kate and make money. If his motivation was to save the kids, he would have given the journal<br />Immediately to CPS and the family court judge.. if the information in the journals was as damning as the Kate haters would like everyone to believe, the courts would have removed the children from Kate's custody.PARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09640267099424891666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-91602495320371534472017-01-08T05:16:17.326-06:002017-01-08T05:16:17.326-06:00It's a wonder the bleeps want to jump to the c...It's a wonder the bleeps want to jump to the conclusion that Collin was removed from Kate yet can't surmise that Collin has been kept from Jon for a reason.<br /><br />Kate made it clear on Dr. Oz that she has to keep it from Jon or it will go straight to the tabloids. Jon doesn't have the right to know or he wouldn't have to go to court to request the information. <br /><br />Other than these holiday visits Jon is having with the four children, I doubt that there are any further proceedings in custody. Sorry, bleeps there will be no psych evals. Jon's talk is nothing more than a way to put dollars in his pocket. Why don't any of them question why Jon would supposedly go for custody of Hannah when he hadn't seen Alexis and Collin? WHY? There was a supposed emergency hearing over Hannah and no mention of Collin? Why wasn't Jon a wreck over what Collin might be subjected to at the hands of Kate? Surely Jon recalls the details from Kate's diary. ;)<br /><br />Or, I wish they would answer a very old question. Why would Jon stop filming only to sell out the twins bd to ET? They can ignore the kind of repeated stuff Jon pulls. But, Jon's true motives are recognized by the family court.<br /><br />Supposedly there was a hearing over holiday visitation and Collins whereabouts didn't come up? Jon wasn't allowed immediate visitation? If Jon had the right to know, he would have been told. Jon's already wrung out a bunch of tabloid stories over the situation. Again, the court is not blind that Jon goes on tv blaming Kate and saying he doesn't know why he hasn't Collin or that says he says law enforcement told him something else about Collin's situation.<br /><br />Jon and RH repeatedly used the kids during the divorce era and beyond.<br /><br />The kids aren't blind to the fact that this guy they knew and probably trusted used them for his own self-interest. He "found" the diary around April 28, 2010 but didn't do anything with it for over two years. Jon brought this creepy guy, a pap, around his family and turmoil ensued. Then, they've had to deal with their dad selling stories he's going for custody ever since Kate was on DWTS.<br /><br />There's only a handful of reasons that a parent loses visitation this long. There are usually steps to reunification. Jon should have at least been allowed supervised visitation. If he's only allowed four at a time, there should be a plan in place for him to be allowed all eight . That time would have already come and gone. The decisions in place have been there for quite some time. It seems that with a couple of exceptions of the kids' best interest, the decision to visit is left up to the kids.<br /><br />It's really odd but I have to guess the court decisions are based around the way Jon uses his kids as tabloid fodder.merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-37975029785826650132017-01-08T03:29:21.510-06:002017-01-08T03:29:21.510-06:00Kate brought it up before Jon could sell the story...Kate brought it up before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. Jon has sold stories in the past about the kids with his own self serving spin on them.<br />================ <br /><br />And how do you know this? Did Kate tell you? Or is it just all speculation on your part? Do you have "facts" to support your statement? <br /><br />Kate sold a story(with pictures) to People(a tab), and did further interviews about Collin with her "own self-serving spin" and that's okay in your book, but if Jon did it, in your opinion, it's totally wrong. <br /><br />I think I get it now--Kate is good, Jon is bad, and the Sageway Express is always right. Does that basically sum it up? <br />Facts do matternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3326826300976351989.post-83521344658527306752017-01-08T01:57:33.815-06:002017-01-08T01:57:33.815-06:00Facts, Kate brought it up before Jon could sell th...Facts, Kate brought it up before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. Jon has sold stories in the past about the kids with his own self serving spin on them. Why do you think Jon was not told where he is? <br /><br />Kate brought it up with the least amount of facts. Why do you think Jon was not told where he is? Why do you think Jon has not seen him in a couple years?Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08906916414288142503noreply@blogger.com