Gawker reported on Wednesday, Aug. 19, that the former 19 Kids and Counting star may have spent as much as $986.76 for two subscriptions on AshleyMadison.com — a site that helps married people find others for affairs. Open discussion...
Haley, Morgan, Ellen, Liz and Colleen.... Those are only the ones he has professed his love for and introduced to the public. I'm quite sure there are have been others.
So the know it all blog says maybe Jon supports his children. What a laugh, he singed off for any decisions concerning his kids, and that let him out of paying no cs. Buying a burger is not support. Where do this posters live?, not in reality. Jon himself told it on National TV that he pays no support. Sorry to say, but a DJ gig here and there would not allow Jon to save much money for the future for his kids. Jon will do well, just to keep his own head above water, but with a new older women in his life, I'm sure Jon has plenty of charm for her. She must be a super winner, she lives with a man who dumped his own kids because he wanted to re-live his 20's.
Did someone forget about Ellen in the line of women for Jon, just asking.
Happy last Friday of September! Finally settling into our school routine. Staying pretty busy with work and kids. Fell behind on keeping up with Jon & Kate news but it seems I haven't missed much - haters are still trying to destroy Kate and make Jon a saint.
Yep, there were more women. At Bl's they were listing "lived with." The name of the school teacher was Deanna. Also, don't forget his fling with Kate Major.
"So the know it all blog says maybe Jon supports his children. What a laugh, he singed off for any decisions concerning his kids, and that let him out of paying no cs."~Farkle
Farkle, they completely ignore that TLC didn't bring the show back until Jon gave up legal rights. He made that possible. I doubt that TLC wanted to fool with the hassle of Jon. At the time, Kate had no guarantee that TLC would be back in their lives filming new episodes. Kate saved his butt from jail and took on the responsibility of financial support without the safety net of TLC.
Another rehash of the same garbage, "my life is normal,my new woman is the love of my life, I'm a giving and wonderful father" by Jon Gosselin. Mag's rehash this every time they need a filler or it's a slow news day in rag mag land. Do they want to make Jon G. out to be the saint bl claims because Josh D. is so disgusting by comparison and no one wants to read about him.
Jon reminds me of my dad. He was married 5 times, and was not married when he died. And he always lined up his next relationship before he broke one off (unbeknownst to his current spouse of course). He divorced our mom when I was about 10, moved in with his girlfriend and her kids (which I didn't know until I was grown) and paid very little in support for his 4 kids. And boy did our mother let us know it, constantly. It was very hurtful to know those details. He remarried mom a year later and his other marriages didn't occur until we were mostly grown. But it was still very awkward and damaging. It's hard to keep getting introduced to the new love of someone's life. I can't imagine what it's like for a kid, but it seems that many people who split now jump right into a relationship(s) complete with kids on both sides. Often, they then produce another kid and expect everything to be rosy among all the kids. I have seen this dozens of times with family, friends and also in my volunteering. It's sad.
Was Jon lying in this interview? He's been shacked up with this one for 9 months? This is 10 months ago and he said he was single. Or did he move in like a week after dating? Good grief. Voice of experience - this is bad for those kids. I don't care how 'loving'a father everyone screams that he is. His kids need ALL of him when they see him. Not him and his girlfriend and their kids in the latest girlfriend's house. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-im-dating-myself-right-now-no-relationship-with-kate-2014711
What I find odd in the interview with Jon is that he has lived with this woman for 9 months. Colleen has two children one in college and one in 10th grade yet they have not met the Gosselin kids.
Why is that? I could see not meeting the college age kid but, the one in 10th grade? Apparantly, when Jon has the kids on weekends he stays at a hotel with them. Why? Does Colleen not allow them at her house or does Jon not want them there or do the Gosselin kids not want to meet yet another girlfriend and family....interesting.
Actually, he was lying. He said '9 months' back in July. I went to public school and all, but 9 months is October-November or so by my math, and he said in November that he was dating himself. Or maybe they started dating the next day. http://www.inquisitr.com/2269482/jon-gosselin-colleen-conrad-2/
God, I hate lying more than anything.
And for all those saying they knew each other in high school, Jon must have been a child prodigy. She is 10 years older than him, which was also reported earlier. But maybe Jon was in high school when his peers were in the second grade.
Jon has taken the kids to hotels when they accompanied him on gigs. Beyond that nobody knows. Maybe her kid is with her dad on his custody time. She has to know who they are though. Maybe she feels awkward about it. I would.
You can't trust the Inquisitr. I don't know, but whenever I go there, some of their articles seem cut and paste from multiple sites. Jon's latest US interview, where they got the story, said the twins had not yet met Colleen's children. But, the younger ones had. I think the younger kids visit at his home and they were at hotels when Jon had some out-of-state gigs. Sounds like Mady and Cara opt to visit their dad somewhere else.
Jon gave an interview to OK back in March where he talks about his new girlfriend. He said they had been dating two - three months. He's in love and living at her place. That would make about nine months of them being together. That's also the interview he talks about getting the kids one night for dinner and one day of the weekend because of his DJ jobs.
“I have them one dinner night a week for like 4.5-5 hours and then I have them Friday, Saturday, Sunday one day and that’s a flex schedule now, because Kate knows I work weekends. Even though it’s like Kate and our controversy and all that stuff, even though it’s like… in the press it seems like tumultuous. But it’s actually worked out well.”
So, it was just Nov 2014 that Jon told US, was going to be single. And, by Jan-Feb he was already living with Colleen.
"The truth is I made some poor financial decisions, but I am living in a home," he told Extra. "I've got to figure out who I am. Being a father, devoting my time toward my kids…"
merryway, I agree with you but that article from Inquisitor is from July, not recently. They reported that almost three months ago and now he's saying the same thing at US Magazine.
PJ's momma, Thank you, you are right. My bad, I thought that it a was recent, taken from the US interview. I didn't realize it was from back in July.
Lol, Look at this. There are two Inquisitr articles within a day of each other, July 20 and July 21. One says Colleen met the kids and the other says she has not. That is a weird site.
I think it's pretty obvious that PADutchMom and localyocal are the SAME person. They always just coincidentally (rolling my eyes) tweet within 30 minutes of each other. ANd they're always commenting on each other's posts. IE - the Billy Joel concert, the weather, shopping at EXACTLY the same stores...puh-lease.
Gawd, the BLs are dumb.
Don't we all know who does that?? Carries on conversations with herself? LOL
Sooooo obvious...
ETA: and Jonny boy Gosselin is an overweight, immature, disgusting frat boy who never grew up. The haters can lie to themselves all they want. EVERYONE knows the truth. He's a pig and a piss poor role model for his children.
2 or 3 posters left at the BL's is priceless. Guess she couldn't make up any more lies concerning Jon, as he still blabs his mouth to the tabs.
His new gf looks way older than Jon, 10 years? She looks at least 15 years older, but Jon likes to have a mommy in his life. She can scrub his dirty underwear after hanging out in the bars with the flies. Notice HE moved into HER house, why can't Jon provide a home for all his loves?/instead he mooches off of women all the time.
Does Jon have the kids on a school night 4-5 hours? Unless they are staying overnight with him in the middle of the week, I doubt this is true. I feel sorry for the twins, they are at the age that he will be so embarrassing for them. His rubbish of putting his kids first is a world joke to the public, he pays no cs.
Farkle said... 2 or 3 posters left at the BL's is priceless. Guess she couldn't make up any more lies concerning Jon, as he still blabs his mouth to the tabs.
Ha ha. There have been more comments on that site today alone than you get in 2 weeks.
At least we don't have to make up lies to keep posters on this site. The people who post here know the truth and have lives of their own, unlike some other people... Why don't you go back to your drafty veranda?
Anonymous FYI said... Oh, I'd say you make up lies when you go to other blogs and post false information and your little friend fartful is very loose with the truth. LOL
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Can you back up that accusation? Somehow, I doubt it.
And "fartful?" How old are you, 10? That's about the intellectual age of the BL's loyal minions. Don't you have a fake party to attend over at the veranda where you get fake drunk? Oh wait, fake parties are so last year. I believe the veranda dwellers are most recently engaged in pretending to howl. Such rapier wits on display over there.
I would love to see the comments you are talking about. Perhaps some people from this blog managed to get their messages through the firing line of the BL, but no one has ever posted on here about LYING on that stupid blog.
Your posters do and brag about it over here. You're saying you've not seen those comments? No lying now. LOL ********************************************************* Asking again...Can you back up your claim? Surely someone who likes to level accusations is prepared to back them up. Don't make me fake howl at you.
Nameless in LA said... Asking again...Can you back up your claim? Surely someone who likes to level accusations is prepared to back them up. Don't make me fake howl at you.
Yep, but I'm not going to slog through a bunch of comments to find them. Perhaps tomorrow. Oh, and can this site accommodate screen shots?
"I would rather have fewer comments and the truth than hundreds of whitewashed bullshit that is shoveled at 15 minutes. It isn't a contest....and if it was the truth wins every single time." ~Sage
Yes! Yes! Yes!
"Don't make me fake howl at you." ~Nameless
Do it Nameless! Then, I'll go fetch us some fake rumspringa! :)
No Bl, it is not "illegal in the U.S." for an 18yo to date a 17yo. How can an attorney make such a blanket statement? She makes it sound like the Feds could swoop in on Bindi's boyfriend at any moment.
Laws vary by state, in some a parent could have charges pressed against an 18yo. In others, the relationship would be absolutely legal. State laws vary on the age of consent and some have Romeo & Juliet laws.
In most states (if not all), Bindi and her boyfriend could marry if Bindi had parental consent.
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Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 53
I'm back stateside!!!
Bindi's American boyfriend is cute although I noticed he's 18 and she's only 17. Technically that's illegal in the U.S. if they're having sex. They have been together for a long time it looks like, two years even.
It's going to be interesting to see what develops in Bindi's career now that she has a quite serious boyfriend in her life. When you're 17 that love is all that matters and if a work opportunity comes up that means she can't see him or doesn't have much time with him, I wouldn't put it past her to put up a resistance. September 29, 2015 at 2:23 AM
And the dating thing? What the heck there too? If that's illegal, then millions of kids in high school all over this great land are breaking the law, including me 35 years ago. Most girls I knew did date older boys because boys in our grade were so immature compared to juniors and seniors. Of course, that changed junior or senior year.
Age of consent in this state is 16. And if sex is with someone older, there's a year spread law, can't remember what it is (five years?), to protect 16 year olds from being groomed by, say, 23 year olds. This has come up many times here because we have had a lot of creepy teachers having relationships with their students lately. In fact, there's a registered sex offender down the street, a female teacher who had a relationship with a 16 year old boy.
The BL is getting hammered for once by her own minions, but she won't back down. She is beyond creepy. Who spends their time thinking about whether a 17 year-old celebrity is having sex with her 18 year-old boyfriend?
Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 91
I could be totally off base, but I guess I was driving at the idea of the arrogance of celebrity. Bindi, with presumably her mother's permission, is flaunting an adult boyfriend when she is underage as if there's nothing at all wrong with it under the law. If they're having relations, and this is a two year relationship, they'll get ya for that in California, but a lot of celebs think the laws don't apply to them. This is not a law California just ignores. It's one where they will enforce it if they want to. **** Sue_Buddy said... 96 This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about? ****
swimgirl said... 99 P.J. said... 89 I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me. ****** Amen, P.J.! I have a daughter who dated an 18 year old when she was 17. It is not a big deal. They were both in the same grade as his birthday was just after the school cut off date and hers was just before it for the following year. I could understand if he was 21 and she was 17. But 18 and 17, good grief!
*Sherry Baby said... 111 I agree. The California law seems really bizarre to me. It's OK for a couple aged 17 years and 17 years 364 days to have sex, but the next day when the older one turns 18 it's suddenly illegal?
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So the trick here is if you are going to have sex, do it before midnight.***
She even implied that Bindi is an arrogant celebrity, flouting the local laws. Huh? How could she KNOW the local laws? She's a KID! And even if her boyfriend is legally an adult, by a few months, he is also a kid. Good lord.
I've been where Bindi lives and the only law I paid much attention to was 'look right' or else you'll be mowed down by a car driving on the 'wrong' side of the road when crossing the street. Beyond that, we just assumed we were obeying all (unknown) laws. Just as many other tourists do, here, there, and everywhere, all over the world, every single day.
Scratching my head here....this isn't Singapore where you will be fined for spitting on the street or having gum in your possession.
BL and her minions have exposed themselves.... The fact isn't that Bindi is or isn't having sex with her boyfriend, but the fact that she is a CELEBRITY and maybe is enjoying the perks of being a celebrity! They cannot stand to think that someone may have achieved something in their life that they never will! BL doesn't know ANYTHING about what Bindi does with or without her boyfriend. Her arrogance knows no limit!
Quiltart said... BL and her minions have exposed themselves.... The fact isn't that Bindi is or isn't having sex with her boyfriend, but the fact that she is a CELEBRITY and maybe is enjoying the perks of being a celebrity! They cannot stand to think that someone may have achieved something in their life that they never will! BL doesn't know ANYTHING about what Bindi does with or without her boyfriend. Her arrogance knows no limit!
The fact is the minions thought BL's statement was totally absurd which you'd have known if you'd read them.
Sage do they "all" have to comment, even people who haven't commented for days?
Here are the comments, a pretty fair number of comments. And I didn't find anyone who agreed. Care to share the comments of the minions who agreed with BL?
caroline said... 83 What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
Jillygee said... 86 Caroline said... What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
************** Right? This convo is getting weird . What an odd think to think about.
Tucker's Mom said... 88 Jillygee said... 86 Caroline said... What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
************** Right? This convo is getting weird . What an odd think to think about.
***** Just to add, I really don't care where they have sex! It's just the public nature of everything in Bindi's life. Anyhoo, carry on!
P.J. said... 89 I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me.
Sue_Buddy said... 93 Bindi Irwin was born July 24, 1998. She is 17, her boyfriend is 18. I don't consider their relationship to be between a minor and an adult.
Sue_Buddy said... 96 This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about?
MikeB said... 98 I have no idea about California law, but where I live there has to be a three-year difference in age between the boy and the girl before sex is illegal. An 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old is fine. Make sense to me, there should be some reasonable allowance for young people who are about the same age.
swimgirl said... 99 P.J. said... 89 I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me. ****** Amen, P.J.! I have a daughter who dated an 18 year old when she was 17. It is not a big deal. They were both in the same grade as his birthday was just after the school cut off date and hers was just before it for the following year. I could understand if he was 21 and she was 17. But 18 and 17, good grief!
ainbirdie said... 105 Sue_Buddy said... 96 This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about? ---- I agree with you Sue Buddy. He's 8 months older than her. That hardly makes him a pedophile. Unless Bindi's mother is publicly concerned about the 8 month age difference, it's a total non-story.
Hello, I am a long time reader and I finally had to post. I do not think that the reason BL is attacking Bindi is because she is a celebrity. I believe she is attacking Bindi because Kate knows Bindi. Kate had Bindi's family on her show and Bindi's family likes Kate. It always, always has to do with Kate.
I wondered the same thing. The story has nothing to do with Kate, but then someone says, "Kate won't let those kids date while under her roof" or something like that? Uh, they are talking about Bindi, who is a kid, not Kate. They weren't even talking about Bindi's mother, why bring Kate into it at all? Whether the G girls are allowed to date is irrelevant to the Bindi conversation.
And what makes them think none of those girls will date? Parents are wise to let their kids date and to get to KNOW the people they are dating, including them in family functions and such. It's easier to keep an eye on things that way.
Bindi has a boyfriend. Most kids do at some time or other. Big friggin' whoop.
Not So...thanks for taking the effort to show who disagreed. I will give you that there are some who will disagree with Becks. I think there could be more but they do not like to ruffle her feathers and be called a 'snot'.
I have to ask you again...are you a poster there and what is your true take about Becks?
Sage, I no longer post on 15. I had a disagreement with the administrator. She gladly argued her case and replied to my posts but wouldn't actually put them up on the board for all to see. That's chicken sh*t if you ask me. I do not care for her bloviating comments. She says in 5 paragraphs what could be said in two sentences. They're of no real interest and extremely condescending.
Sage, thank you. I may stop by from time to time. My strong dislike for Kate will probably keep me away most of the time. I don't think she has a motherly bone in her body.
How do you think Jon should parent his children? Don't you think a responsible Father would pay cs? College funds, dental and medical bills? Educations fees for school, sports? Just asking. Do you believe it's good on the kids to have had a revolving door of women that Jon has had over several years?
I don't agree with Kate on everything, but with 8 kids, she does have her hands full. Her house is not that big, she has a few acres of pasture around it, that is not considered high living. Look at the Dugger home, TLC helped pay for it to be finished with many perks added.
Anyone notice that the BL is all up and posting about someone's sex life again?? Something is seriously wrong with her, but her sheep look worse for giving her attention on this topic. It's none of her business who dates who, but she seems to convey that she is in Bindi's bedroom. Sick!
I'm also of the opinion Kate is a poor parent. (Read her journals she copyrighted). I'd be interested in debating the topic as well; from the little I've read here there is RESPECT here (unlike the other blog. Have a dissenting viewpoint of Jon and you are tarred and feathered!) For the record, I think he's shown poor parenting as well. *disclaimer: I've never met Jon or Kate so my opinions are formed from the show, internet articles, her journal, etc.
I think they both suck. Jon is not living up to his financial and MORAL responsibilities and goes from thing to thing and live-in to live-in. Kate seems very cold and controlling. IMO, those kids do way too many chores, especially because she's home all day. Kate seems very much like my mother. But mine worked. The only thing she ever did was the grocery shopping and making dinner. We did everything else, and I mean everything. My dad took care of paying the bills but didn't lift a finger inside or outside, ever. We got school clothes/shoes once a year and both my parents were clothes horses, getting new stuff every time they got paid.
I give Kate credit for keeping them in their home (which I have seen, and yes it is very big) and school and they appear to be well cared for. But wow, are the girls disrespectful to her. Others might enjoy that, saying they finally have a voice, but I don't like it at all. They run all over her.
I guess I wouldn't even care, except they put it all out there, AND Kate says in one breath that it's her job, but in the next the kids are not working, just running in and out of the frame. How can it be both?
Again, I give her credit for keeping everything together. That would be a struggle for even two parents.
How do you think Jon should parent his children? Don't you think a responsible Father would pay cs? College funds, dental and medical bills? Educations fees for school, sports? Just asking. Do you believe it's good on the kids to have had a revolving door of women that Jon has had over several years?
Jon was trying to parent his children when he said no more filming, especially during the divorce. For that he was eviscerated by Kate, TLC and the media.
According to both Jon and Kate, the kids have a college fund set aside. Jon paid an astronomical amount in child support for months (while at the same time Kate was working and bring in large amounts of monwy) until the money ran out due to mountainous legal bills -->> court appearances, TLC lawsuit.
Kate is the one making all the money; therefore she should pay the largest amount of support. That's the way it works for "normal" people as a rule. The divorced dad usually makes the money, thus pays child support. Jon's ability to get a job was tainted by TLC and the media after the divorce, i.e., he couldn't work in the entertainment field and he wasn't a welcome commodity in the hum drum IT world where his celebrity could be a deterrent.
He acted like an ass for quite a long time after he and Kate split. He has apologized many times and expressed that he will live with the guilt for the rest of his life. Although I don't like that he's had several relationships, I find that far less offensive than Kate, who lives her luxurious lifestyle provided to her by putting her children to work.
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Nobody "tainted" Jon as much as Jon tainted himself. Jon's where he is right now because of his choices. And please don't bother with the "Jon wanted the kids off TV especially during the divorce" lie because the timeline severely contradicts that fantasy.
Jon continued filming with the kids after the divorce papers were filed - he said the kids loved filming and that the show was great for them right up until TLC decided they didn't want him on the show anymore. Then and ONLY then did Jon pull the plug on filming. The divorce papers were filed in June, Jon made his "the show is great for the kids and they love it" comments in July/August (and the show was still being filmed at that time) and he didn't shut filming down until September/October - after TLC announced they were done with him on Jon and Kate Plus 8. That is the timeline. The timeline only supports the fact that he was fine with the kids filming while the divorce was in progress, and shut the show down for spite - Jon's sentiment clearly being, "if you don't want to film ME, then you don't get to film my kids." The Jon fans who love to rewrite history will conveniently forget all that and find away around those pesky and very relevant facts.
Jon was trying to parent his children when he said no more filming, especially during the divorce. For that he was eviscerated by Kate, TLC and the media. ~ Not so
Oh please, Micha is right. Jon earned his reputation on his own. He was seen with many women and galivatanting around the country. He was giving interviews right and left and on every tv pap show. Jon didn't move to take his kids off tv until he decided to use them as a bargaining chip. After he stopped filming, he sold off the twins' birthday to ET.
Jon was going to be more than happy to have his children model Ed Hardy.
Funny, TLC didn't stop Jon from working with the French Designer.
"Jon is hopeful he may have found a new career. "I'm excited," he told PEOPLE from a Saint-Tropez café, looking relaxed and happy. "The kids will model the line once it comes out." (Asked if he thinks Kate would be okay with that plan, Jon cannot say—literally. "Kate and I agreed to a 45-day period in which we wouldn't talk about each other," he explains. "After that we might be able to speak more freely.") Still he couldn't help but gush about his future. "Little did I know that wearing Christian's T-shirts would end up with me working with him. I'm excited. It will be a totally new challenge for me." And one that he looks forward to meeting with Hailey. "I'm not much of a designer, but Hailey is a natural. She'll have a lot of input, and I will too. She's my creative secret weapon." By the end of the weekend, plans for a children's line had been put on hold, with Audigier telling PEOPLE he and Jon would first collaborate on a line for adults inspired by Jon's love of motorcycles. Tentative name for the new fashions? Hollywood Rebel. "
Excellent recap of the facts Micha,no matter how people try to spin it the timeline is clear,Jon did not object to filming until he was cut from the show. I do not think Kate is a perfect parent,I think she can be cold at times and very strict. However I will never fault her for trying to provide the best possible home and school for her children,not to mention the opportunities that TLC has provided them. Raising 8 children is a huge financial responsibility and I'm sure Kate knew early on that she would not be able to depend on Jon.Let's be realistic here,money isn't everything but it can certainly help make life easier.and provide opportunities to help the children in their future,as parents isn't that what we all strive for?
That Christian Audigier/Ed Hardy thing always stuck in my mind too. Audigier was fabulously wealthy to be able to live that lifestyle in Provence, and could afford to throw ideas around. Jon seemed giddily excited that his kids would model these clothes even though he hadn't talked to their mother about it, nor probably the kids either. To say he was happily free is hurtful to the kids, especially as they were probably very confused and trying to comfort their mother too. Been there. Around that same time, he was also photographed leaving bars with young coeds and rumored to being with one of the nannies.
It is THAT behavior that turned people off. He could not get out of his own way despite all the negative press and he just continued on that path. He has done some weird reality stuff (http://www.eonline.com/news/641981/jon-gosselin-buries-his-ed-hardy-t-shirt-in-the-middle-of-times-square-watch-the-bizarre-video-now) to keep his face out there and he still refers to himself as a public figure.
Nobody is preventing Jon working form working in IT. My husband is in high tech and there is a shortage of qualified people to do the many jobs available in that field. His company hires many people on H1-B visas (despite the hassle to the employer). We have a pretty heavy tech presence here, but go to the Silicon Valley - you will see oodles of people obviously on H1-B visas from other countries.
I hope Ex Nurse reads here sometimes. She has been lambasted for daring to have a contrary opinion about Jon over there.
Thanks for the civil conversation. Do you really think that all the money is there for years of education and college funds is in place? When those kids are ready for college, the costs will probably double again. I don't care how well you invest, the market will dictate interest rates on those accounts. Also, those accounts are for education, not the huge bills for todays activities. I asked about paying cs, it's not whether Jon can afford it or not, he went to court to sign off his kids to GET OUT of paying support and because Kate was kind enough to let him off, he spent no time in jail. This is what you call a responsible Father. Jon can say sorry till the cows come home, that will never excuse him for what he has done and continues to do.
Just because at a moment in time when a Mother makes more than a Dad does, does not forgive cs. Jon sold a few stories in the past weeks, wonder if he paid any of the kids bills? Jon should be ashamed of what he has done and continues to do. Jon could get a job with benefits so that his kids could maybe have some medical insurance instead of Kate paying for everything. Kate saved money from the show, do you think that lasts forever?
Even if Jon doesn't 'have' to pay child support, he could still pay part of the school expenses directly to the school, or the health insurance premium, or something, so that the money didn't go directly to Kate and still benefits the kids. It would be the honorable thing to do. It doesn't matter if she's a billionaire - they are his kids too.
I always get a bit tickled when people talk about the Gosselin children working and how it's so terrible. For their sporadic filming now, it's a very cushy job. I went to a pumpkin patch the other day. It was a family-run farm. I saw the children working to help make it successful. It was a great patch! An Asian restaurant that I frequent sometimes has the middle-school daughter working the cash register. Then she's off to a corner table to do her homework. I'm sure that there are many examples of children working for their family that has some real labor involved.
While I think fathers should support their kids, J&K's agreement doesn't bother me. Jon wasted his money, he wasn't thinking of the kids. He seemed to think he could it keep it rolling in. He's fortunate Kate manages well and has a way to support his children. Kate stepped in and saved his butt from spending some time in jail. Kate is an ant, Jon is a grasshopper. What's awful about the situation, is that Jon gives Kate no credit or respect for doing so. He's attacked her publicly several times. All, for his own benefit. Jon will probably always put himself before his children and that's very sad for them.
I don't know any of them personally either, but for those so called journals, the true journal has never been published that I have seen. I think most of it was fabricated to make Kate look sick and mentally ill, and when you have allowed a stalker around your kids ( Jon's old friend) I would have come unglued at what that author was doing watching that family like he admitted. I do think Kate had very stressful times when Jon was gone to work and probably yelled and screamed a lot. She seemed indifferent about things and highly stressed over other things. I hope people would feel some sympathy for what Kate and the kids endured during Hoff's rants fueled by Jon to get back at her. Jon has ruined his relationship with his kids when they are old enough to really know what Jon did behind the scenes, lie and feeding Hoff bait. Hoff took the downfall for Jon. I don't believe for one minute anything was found in the garbage, it was doctored by Jon and Hoff. This is only a opinion, I have no idea what is true or false.
If Jon was so sure the journal was true, why not a book tour with Hoff to promote it? Hoff could have done what he wanted with HIS own book, so what if you are sued, he could present his case in court. I don't care if you have money or big lawyers, if you have nothing to worry about and can back up your info with true facts, you have nothing to worry about.
I think Kate thinks it's work, because she has to schedule the couple of shows that they do. She has to handle the financial end of things, while do everything for the kids 7 days a week. The kids aren't old enough to drive, so that is left up to her, bus schedules, shopping for them, groceries, etc. It's like a vacation for the kids to go places, yet I remember when my family went on vacation, my Mom was in charge in making sure everyone was packed, etc. Kate is OCD, this is here biggest downfall, she thinks everything has be just be so.
I have no idea what TLC pays for, but their will always be unexpected expenses not covered by any show.
I never thought Kate was real comfortable being a celebrity. I believe her to be a shy person...socially awkward, if you will. Jon is much more comfortable with it and can schmooze.
Kate is right when she says they can't go back. There is no way that she ever could get a nursing job. She has 8 kids to raise and it has landed on her shoulders to do it. You do what you have to do to give your kids a comfortable life.
I'd like to know what sort of luxurious life the minions think Kate is living? What luxuries to they think the kids are providing her? We usually only see her when she's on a show... and when she's on any show, the show pays for her expenses. (Getting your nails done is not a luxury for most moms. Sorry.) The rest of the time she seems to be in jeans or a jogging suit like any other normal mom. Why is it hard to believe that taking care of a house for eight kids is not work? Despite the ridiculous comments that she has full time help and a full time chef, she doesn't.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 284 of 284Haley, Morgan, Ellen, Liz and Colleen.... Those are only the ones he has professed his love for and introduced to the public. I'm quite sure there are have been others.
OMG, what is wrong with me? I left off Liz that time. Yeesh, I'm sorry.
Okay, I confess I'm watching Heroes as I post. :)
Thank you Quilt!
So the know it all blog says maybe Jon supports his children. What a laugh, he singed off for any decisions concerning his kids, and that let him out of paying no cs. Buying a burger is not support. Where do this posters live?, not in reality. Jon himself told it on National TV that he pays no support. Sorry to say, but a DJ gig here and there would not allow Jon to save much money for the future for his kids. Jon will do well, just to keep his own head above water, but with a new older women in his life, I'm sure Jon has plenty of charm for her. She must be a super winner, she lives with a man who dumped his own kids because he wanted to re-live his 20's.
Did someone forget about Ellen in the line of women for Jon, just asking.
Ellen is getting much attention tonight, at least her name is. LOL.
Stephanie, the nanny, the school teacher, can't remember her name.???
The bar maid, the college girls he was messing with, Jon was a busy boy.
Someone could write a book on Jon's gals, he went through them quickly after they dumped him.
...and those are only the ones we know about.
Happy last Friday of September! Finally settling into our school routine. Staying pretty busy with work and kids. Fell behind on keeping up with Jon & Kate news but it seems I haven't missed much - haters are still trying to destroy Kate and make Jon a saint.
Yep, there were more women. At Bl's they were listing "lived with." The name of the school teacher was Deanna. Also, don't forget his fling with Kate Major.
"So the know it all blog says maybe Jon supports his children. What a laugh, he singed off for any decisions concerning his kids, and that let him out of paying no cs."~Farkle
Farkle, they completely ignore that TLC didn't bring the show back until Jon gave up legal rights. He made that possible. I doubt that TLC wanted to fool with the hassle of Jon.
At the time, Kate had no guarantee that TLC would be back in their lives filming new episodes. Kate saved his butt from jail and took on the responsibility of financial support without the safety net of TLC.
It really doesn't matter what the 2 or 3 freak Jon sainters say any more. No one posts there any more anyway.
As someone asked a few days ago "Have we run too many posters off?" LOL Yes. Yes, they have.
BL's blog is on life support. *gasping for breath*
Another rehash of the same garbage, "my life is normal,my new woman is the love of my life, I'm a giving and wonderful father" by Jon Gosselin. Mag's rehash this every time they need a filler or it's a slow news day in rag mag land. Do they want to make Jon G. out to be the saint bl claims because Josh D. is so disgusting by comparison and no one wants to read about him.
Jon reminds me of my dad. He was married 5 times, and was not married when he died. And he always lined up his next relationship before he broke one off (unbeknownst to his current spouse of course). He divorced our mom when I was about 10, moved in with his girlfriend and her kids (which I didn't know until I was grown) and paid very little in support for his 4 kids. And boy did our mother let us know it, constantly. It was very hurtful to know those details. He remarried mom a year later and his other marriages didn't occur until we were mostly grown. But it was still very awkward and damaging. It's hard to keep getting introduced to the new love of someone's life. I can't imagine what it's like for a kid, but it seems that many people who split now jump right into a relationship(s) complete with kids on both sides. Often, they then produce another kid and expect everything to be rosy among all the kids. I have seen this dozens of times with family, friends and also in my volunteering. It's sad.
Was Jon lying in this interview? He's been shacked up with this one for 9 months? This is 10 months ago and he said he was single. Or did he move in like a week after dating? Good grief. Voice of experience - this is bad for those kids. I don't care how 'loving'a father everyone screams that he is. His kids need ALL of him when they see him. Not him and his girlfriend and their kids in the latest girlfriend's house. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-im-dating-myself-right-now-no-relationship-with-kate-2014711
What I find odd in the interview with Jon is that he has lived with this woman for 9 months.
Colleen has two children one in college and one in 10th grade yet they have not met the Gosselin kids.
Why is that? I could see not meeting the college age kid but, the one in 10th grade? Apparantly, when Jon has the kids on weekends he stays at a hotel with them. Why? Does Colleen not allow them at her house or does Jon not want them there or do the Gosselin kids not want to meet yet another girlfriend and family....interesting.
Actually, he was lying. He said '9 months' back in July. I went to public school and all, but 9 months is October-November or so by my math, and he said in November that he was dating himself. Or maybe they started dating the next day. http://www.inquisitr.com/2269482/jon-gosselin-colleen-conrad-2/
God, I hate lying more than anything.
And for all those saying they knew each other in high school, Jon must have been a child prodigy. She is 10 years older than him, which was also reported earlier. But maybe Jon was in high school when his peers were in the second grade.
LOL... Jon has always liked older women. Maybe she was his babysitter!
Jon has taken the kids to hotels when they accompanied him on gigs. Beyond that nobody knows. Maybe her kid is with her dad on his custody time. She has to know who they are though. Maybe she feels awkward about it. I would.
You can't trust the Inquisitr. I don't know, but whenever I go there, some of their articles seem cut and paste from multiple sites. Jon's latest US interview, where they got the story, said the twins had not yet met Colleen's children. But, the younger ones had. I think the younger kids visit at his home and they were at hotels when Jon had some out-of-state gigs. Sounds like Mady and Cara opt to visit their dad somewhere else.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-on-whether-hed-ever-get-married-again-never-say-never-2015259
Jon gave an interview to OK back in March where he talks about his new girlfriend. He said they had been dating two - three months. He's in love and living at her place. That would make about nine months of them being together. That's also the interview he talks about getting the kids one night for dinner and one day of the weekend because of his DJ jobs.
http://okmagazine.com/get-scoop/jon-gosselin-kate-dj-girlfriend/
“I have them one dinner night a week for like 4.5-5 hours and then I have them Friday, Saturday, Sunday one day and that’s a flex schedule now, because Kate knows I work weekends. Even though it’s like Kate and our controversy and all that stuff, even though it’s like… in the press it seems like tumultuous. But it’s actually worked out well.”
So, it was just Nov 2014 that Jon told US, was going to be single. And, by Jan-Feb he was already living with Colleen.
"The truth is I made some poor financial decisions, but I am living in a home," he told Extra. "I've got to figure out who I am. Being a father, devoting my time toward my kids…"
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-im-dating-myself-right-now-no-relationship-with-kate-2014711
merryway, I agree with you but that article from Inquisitor is from July, not recently. They reported that almost three months ago and now he's saying the same thing at US Magazine.
PJ's momma, Thank you, you are right. My bad, I thought that it a was recent, taken from the US interview. I didn't realize it was from back in July.
Lol, Look at this. There are two Inquisitr articles within a day of each other, July 20 and July 21. One says Colleen met the kids and the other says she has not. That is a weird site.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2269482/jon-gosselin-colleen-conrad-2/
http://www.inquisitr.com/2267978/jon-gosselin-colleen-conrad-gosselin-and-new-girlfriend-have-lived-together-for-eight-months-reports-claim/
I think it's pretty obvious that PADutchMom and localyocal are the SAME person. They always just coincidentally (rolling my eyes) tweet within 30 minutes of each other. ANd they're always commenting on each other's posts. IE - the Billy Joel concert, the weather, shopping at EXACTLY the same stores...puh-lease.
Gawd, the BLs are dumb.
Don't we all know who does that?? Carries on conversations with herself? LOL
Sooooo obvious...
ETA: and Jonny boy Gosselin is an overweight, immature, disgusting frat boy who never grew up. The haters can lie to themselves all they want. EVERYONE knows the truth. He's a pig and a piss poor role model for his children.
2 or 3 posters left at the BL's is priceless. Guess she couldn't make up any more lies concerning Jon, as he still blabs his mouth to the tabs.
His new gf looks way older than Jon, 10 years? She looks at least 15 years older, but Jon likes to have a mommy in his life. She can scrub his dirty underwear after hanging out in the bars with the flies. Notice HE moved into HER house, why can't Jon provide a home for all his loves?/instead he mooches off of women all the time.
Does Jon have the kids on a school night 4-5 hours? Unless they are staying overnight with him in the middle of the week, I doubt this is true. I feel sorry for the twins, they are at the age that he will be so embarrassing for them. His rubbish of putting his kids first is a world joke to the public, he pays no cs.
Farkle said...
2 or 3 posters left at the BL's is priceless. Guess she couldn't make up any more lies concerning Jon, as he still blabs his mouth to the tabs.
Ha ha. There have been more comments on that site today alone than you get in 2 weeks.
At least we don't have to make up lies to keep posters on this site. The people who post here know the truth and have lives of their own, unlike some other people... Why don't you go back to your drafty veranda?
Oh, I'd say you make up lies when you go to other blogs and post false information and your little friend fartful is very loose with the truth. LOL
I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't post on other blogs.
FYI...I don't go to other blogs and post false information. The posters at 15 have that covered.
I would rather have fewer comments and the truth than hundreds of whitewashed
bullshit that is shoveled at 15 minutes.
It isn't a contest....and if it was the truth wins every single time. :)
Anonymous FYI said...
Oh, I'd say you make up lies when you go to other blogs and post false information and your little friend fartful is very loose with the truth. LOL
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Can you back up that accusation? Somehow, I doubt it.
And "fartful?" How old are you, 10? That's about the intellectual age of the BL's loyal minions. Don't you have a fake party to attend over at the veranda where you get fake drunk? Oh wait, fake parties are so last year. I believe the veranda dwellers are most recently engaged in pretending to howl. Such rapier wits on display over there.
Love it Nameless! No self awareness to be embarrassed about fake parties and fake drunks...now howling.
Love it Nameless! No self awareness to be embarrassed about fake parties and fake drunks...now howling.
Sage said...
FYI...I don't go to other blogs and post false information. The posters at 15 have that covered.
Your posters do and brag about it over here. You're saying you've not seen those comments? No lying now. LOL
I would love to see the comments you are talking about. Perhaps some people from this blog managed to get their messages through the firing line of the BL, but no one has ever posted on here about LYING on that stupid blog.
FYI said...
Your posters do and brag about it over here. You're saying you've not seen those comments? No lying now. LOL
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Asking again...Can you back up your claim? Surely someone who likes to level accusations is prepared to back them up. Don't make me fake howl at you.
Nameless in LA said... Asking again...Can you back up your claim? Surely someone who likes to level accusations is prepared to back them up. Don't make me fake howl at you.
Yep, but I'm not going to slog through a bunch of comments to find them. Perhaps tomorrow. Oh, and can this site accommodate screen shots?
Nope can't accommodate screenshots but I will tell you what...email them to me at sagewayexpress@gmail.com.
I'll be waiting. lol
Fake howling, blood moon! LOL.
Which is it....too few comments ... Or slogging through a bunch of comments :)
LOL, Shawn....
"I would rather have fewer comments and the truth than hundreds of whitewashed
bullshit that is shoveled at 15 minutes.
It isn't a contest....and if it was the truth wins every single time." ~Sage
Yes! Yes! Yes!
"Don't make me fake howl at you." ~Nameless
Do it Nameless! Then, I'll go fetch us some fake rumspringa! :)
No Bl, it is not "illegal in the U.S." for an 18yo to date a 17yo. How can an attorney make such a blanket statement? She makes it sound like the Feds could swoop in on Bindi's boyfriend at any moment.
Laws vary by state, in some a parent could have charges pressed against an 18yo. In others, the relationship would be absolutely legal. State laws vary on the age of consent and some have Romeo & Juliet laws.
In most states (if not all), Bindi and her boyfriend could marry if Bindi had parental consent.
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Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 53
I'm back stateside!!!
Bindi's American boyfriend is cute although I noticed he's 18 and she's only 17. Technically that's illegal in the U.S. if they're having sex. They have been together for a long time it looks like, two years even.
It's going to be interesting to see what develops in Bindi's career now that she has a quite serious boyfriend in her life. When you're 17 that love is all that matters and if a work opportunity comes up that means she can't see him or doesn't have much time with him, I wouldn't put it past her to put up a resistance.
September 29, 2015 at 2:23 AM
What the heck happened? Yikes.
And the dating thing? What the heck there too? If that's illegal, then millions of kids in high school all over this great land are breaking the law, including me 35 years ago. Most girls I knew did date older boys because boys in our grade were so immature compared to juniors and seniors. Of course, that changed junior or senior year.
Age of consent in this state is 16. And if sex is with someone older, there's a year spread law, can't remember what it is (five years?), to protect 16 year olds from being groomed by, say, 23 year olds. This has come up many times here because we have had a lot of creepy teachers having relationships with their students lately. In fact, there's a registered sex offender down the street, a female teacher who had a relationship with a 16 year old boy.
My question is why does Becks go right for a 17 year old having sex with her boyfriend?
I know, right?
More than odd. Of course, it's more than odd for someone to run subscription birth fetish site.
I still can't believe her posters ignored that Bl had a "teen" category on that site. Not very child advocatish of them.
Birth fetish site? Do you have a link? I've read this before, would like to see what BL is accused of. Thanks. :)
I tried 3 times to ask her why she thinks Bindi is having sexual relations with her boyfriend. Not one got published.
As far as I know, Bl's birth fetish site is no longer existing. I'm not sure when she gave it up.
Can you explain what her birth fetish was about? ( never heard of such a thing).
And who cares if Bindi has a boyfriend? Good grief
The BL is getting hammered for once by her own minions, but she won't back down. She is beyond creepy. Who spends their time thinking about whether a 17 year-old celebrity is having sex with her 18 year-old boyfriend?
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Ass-istant to Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 91
I could be totally off base, but I guess I was driving at the idea of the arrogance of celebrity. Bindi, with presumably her mother's permission, is flaunting an adult boyfriend when she is underage as if there's nothing at all wrong with it under the law. If they're having relations, and this is a two year relationship, they'll get ya for that in California, but a lot of celebs think the laws don't apply to them. This is not a law California just ignores. It's one where they will enforce it if they want to.
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Sue_Buddy said... 96
This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about?
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swimgirl said... 99
P.J. said... 89
I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me.
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Amen, P.J.! I have a daughter who dated an 18 year old when she was 17. It is not a big deal. They were both in the same grade as his birthday was just after the school cut off date and hers was just before it for the following year. I could understand if he was 21 and she was 17. But 18 and 17, good grief!
*Sherry Baby said... 111
I agree. The California law seems really bizarre to me. It's OK for a couple aged 17 years and 17 years 364 days to have sex, but the next day when the older one turns 18 it's suddenly illegal?
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So the trick here is if you are going to have sex, do it before midnight.***
She even implied that Bindi is an arrogant celebrity, flouting the local laws. Huh? How could she KNOW the local laws? She's a KID! And even if her boyfriend is legally an adult, by a few months, he is also a kid. Good lord.
I've been where Bindi lives and the only law I paid much attention to was 'look right' or else you'll be mowed down by a car driving on the 'wrong' side of the road when crossing the street. Beyond that, we just assumed we were obeying all (unknown) laws. Just as many other tourists do, here, there, and everywhere, all over the world, every single day.
Scratching my head here....this isn't Singapore where you will be fined for spitting on the street or having gum in your possession.
BL and her minions have exposed themselves.... The fact isn't that Bindi is or isn't having sex with her boyfriend, but the fact that she is a CELEBRITY and maybe is enjoying the perks of being a celebrity! They cannot stand to think that someone may have achieved something in their life that they never will! BL doesn't know ANYTHING about what Bindi does with or without her boyfriend. Her arrogance knows no limit!
Quiltart said...
BL and her minions have exposed themselves.... The fact isn't that Bindi is or isn't having sex with her boyfriend, but the fact that she is a CELEBRITY and maybe is enjoying the perks of being a celebrity! They cannot stand to think that someone may have achieved something in their life that they never will! BL doesn't know ANYTHING about what Bindi does with or without her boyfriend. Her arrogance knows no limit!
The fact is the minions thought BL's statement was totally absurd which you'd have known if you'd read them.
I stand corrected then, but I think what I said definitely still applies to the BL.
Not So...not all the minions thought it was absurd.
Are you one of Becks posters? Would like to hear your opinion....don't worry I won't tell Becks.
Sage do they "all" have to comment, even people who haven't commented for days?
Here are the comments, a pretty fair number of comments. And I didn't find anyone who agreed. Care to share the comments of the minions who agreed with BL?
caroline said... 83
What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
Jillygee said... 86
Caroline said...
What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
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Right? This convo is getting weird . What an odd think to think about.
Tucker's Mom said... 88
Jillygee said... 86
Caroline said...
What does Bindi's personal relationship with her boyfriend have to do with anything?
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Right? This convo is getting weird . What an odd think to think about.
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Just to add, I really don't care where they have sex! It's just the public nature of everything in Bindi's life.
Anyhoo, carry on!
P.J. said... 89
I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me.
Sue_Buddy said... 93
Bindi Irwin was born July 24, 1998. She is 17, her boyfriend is 18. I don't consider their relationship to be between a minor and an adult.
Sue_Buddy said... 96
This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about?
MikeB said... 98
I have no idea about California law, but where I live there has to be a three-year difference in age between the boy and the girl before sex is illegal. An 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old is fine. Make sense to me, there should be some reasonable allowance for young people who are about the same age.
swimgirl said... 99
P.J. said... 89
I agree about Bindi. Why are we discussing this? Too creepy for me.
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Amen, P.J.! I have a daughter who dated an 18 year old when she was 17. It is not a big deal. They were both in the same grade as his birthday was just after the school cut off date and hers was just before it for the following year. I could understand if he was 21 and she was 17. But 18 and 17, good grief!
ainbirdie said... 105
Sue_Buddy said... 96
This is the weirdest conversation. Is someone going to report them? Do we know they're having sex? Are the cops going to arrest them? Seriously, is sex between a 17 year old and an 18 year old at the top of the list of crimes the LA police have to worry about?
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I agree with you Sue Buddy. He's 8 months older than her. That hardly makes him a pedophile. Unless Bindi's mother is publicly concerned about the 8 month age difference, it's a total non-story.
Hello, I am a long time reader and I finally had to post. I do not think that the reason BL is attacking Bindi is because she is a celebrity. I believe she is attacking Bindi because Kate knows Bindi. Kate had Bindi's family on her show and Bindi's family likes Kate. It always, always has to do with Kate.
Love your site Sage,
fascinated
Hi fascinated,
I wondered the same thing. The story has nothing to do with Kate, but then someone says, "Kate won't let those kids date while under her roof" or something like that? Uh, they are talking about Bindi, who is a kid, not Kate. They weren't even talking about Bindi's mother, why bring Kate into it at all? Whether the G girls are allowed to date is irrelevant to the Bindi conversation.
And what makes them think none of those girls will date? Parents are wise to let their kids date and to get to KNOW the people they are dating, including them in family functions and such. It's easier to keep an eye on things that way.
Bindi has a boyfriend. Most kids do at some time or other. Big friggin' whoop.
Not So...thanks for taking the effort to show who disagreed. I will give you that there are some who will disagree with Becks. I think there could be more but they do not like to ruffle her feathers and be called a 'snot'.
I have to ask you again...are you a poster there and what is your true take about Becks?
Anonymous...I'm glad you enjoy it here and will continue to post.
PJm..I tend to agree with you. Bindi would not be on her radar without her connection to Kate
Sage, I no longer post on 15. I had a disagreement with the administrator. She gladly argued her case and replied to my posts but wouldn't actually put them up on the board for all to see. That's chicken sh*t if you ask me. I do not care for her bloviating comments. She says in 5 paragraphs what could be said in two sentences. They're of no real interest and extremely condescending.
Quite a few former 15ers here.
At least here you can express an opposing opinion without being attacked.
But there, you can speculate wildly and then present it as fact and it goes unchallenged.
Not So...you are more than welcome to post here. We may not always agree but your posts will appear. :)
Sage, thank you. I may stop by from time to time. My strong dislike for Kate will probably keep me away most of the time. I don't think she has a motherly bone in her body.
Not So....I have to disagree with you about Kate. How, in your opinion, should she mother the kids?
Sage said...
Not So....I have to disagree with you about Kate. How, in your opinion, should she mother the kids?
By putting her children's needs before her own selfish needs for material things and celebrity. That's what mothering is about. Kid's first.
Not S0??
Question:::
How do you think Jon should parent his children? Don't you think a responsible Father would pay cs? College funds, dental and medical bills? Educations fees for school, sports? Just asking. Do you believe it's good on the kids to have had a revolving door of women that Jon has had over several years?
I don't agree with Kate on everything, but with 8 kids, she does have her hands full. Her house is not that big, she has a few acres of pasture around it, that is not considered high living. Look at the Dugger home, TLC helped pay for it to be finished with many perks added.
Anyone notice that the BL is all up and posting about someone's sex life again?? Something is seriously wrong with her, but her sheep look worse for giving her attention on this topic. It's none of her business who dates who, but she seems to convey that she is in Bindi's bedroom. Sick!
I'm also of the opinion Kate is a poor parent. (Read her journals she copyrighted). I'd be interested in debating the topic as well; from the little I've read here there is RESPECT here (unlike the other blog. Have a dissenting viewpoint of Jon and you are tarred and feathered!)
For the record, I think he's shown poor parenting as well.
*disclaimer: I've never met Jon or Kate so my opinions are formed from the show, internet articles, her journal, etc.
I think they both suck. Jon is not living up to his financial and MORAL responsibilities and goes from thing to thing and live-in to live-in. Kate seems very cold and controlling. IMO, those kids do way too many chores, especially because she's home all day. Kate seems very much like my mother. But mine worked. The only thing she ever did was the grocery shopping and making dinner. We did everything else, and I mean everything. My dad took care of paying the bills but didn't lift a finger inside or outside, ever. We got school clothes/shoes once a year and both my parents were clothes horses, getting new stuff every time they got paid.
I give Kate credit for keeping them in their home (which I have seen, and yes it is very big) and school and they appear to be well cared for. But wow, are the girls disrespectful to her. Others might enjoy that, saying they finally have a voice, but I don't like it at all. They run all over her.
I guess I wouldn't even care, except they put it all out there, AND Kate says in one breath that it's her job, but in the next the kids are not working, just running in and out of the frame. How can it be both?
Again, I give her credit for keeping everything together. That would be a struggle for even two parents.
Farkle said...
Not S0??
Question:::
How do you think Jon should parent his children? Don't you think a responsible Father would pay cs? College funds, dental and medical bills? Educations fees for school, sports? Just asking. Do you believe it's good on the kids to have had a revolving door of women that Jon has had over several years?
Jon was trying to parent his children when he said no more filming, especially during the divorce. For that he was eviscerated by Kate, TLC and the media.
According to both Jon and Kate, the kids have a college fund set aside. Jon paid an astronomical amount in child support for months (while at the same time Kate was working and bring in large amounts of monwy) until the money ran out due to mountainous legal bills -->> court appearances, TLC lawsuit.
Kate is the one making all the money; therefore she should pay the largest amount of support. That's the way it works for "normal" people as a rule. The divorced dad usually makes the money, thus pays child support. Jon's ability to get a job was tainted by TLC and the media after the divorce, i.e., he couldn't work in the entertainment field and he wasn't a welcome commodity in the hum drum IT world where his celebrity could be a deterrent.
He acted like an ass for quite a long time after he and Kate split. He has apologized many times and expressed that he will live with the guilt for the rest of his life. Although I don't like that he's had several relationships, I find that far less offensive than Kate, who lives her luxurious lifestyle provided to her by putting her children to work.
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Nobody "tainted" Jon as much as Jon tainted himself. Jon's where he is right now because of his choices. And please don't bother with the "Jon wanted the kids off TV especially during the divorce" lie because the timeline severely contradicts that fantasy.
Jon continued filming with the kids after the divorce papers were filed - he said the kids loved filming and that the show was great for them right up until TLC decided they didn't want him on the show anymore. Then and ONLY then did Jon pull the plug on filming. The divorce papers were filed in June, Jon made his "the show is great for the kids and they love it" comments in July/August (and the show was still being filmed at that time) and he didn't shut filming down until September/October - after TLC announced they were done with him on Jon and Kate Plus 8. That is the timeline. The timeline only supports the fact that he was fine with the kids filming while the divorce was in progress, and shut the show down for spite - Jon's sentiment clearly being, "if you don't want to film ME, then you don't get to film my kids." The Jon fans who love to rewrite history will conveniently forget all that and find away around those pesky and very relevant facts.
Jon was trying to parent his children when he said no more filming, especially during the divorce. For that he was eviscerated by Kate, TLC and the media. ~ Not so
Oh please, Micha is right. Jon earned his reputation on his own. He was seen with many women and galivatanting around the country. He was giving interviews right and left and on every tv pap show. Jon didn't move to take his kids off tv until he decided to use them as a bargaining chip. After he stopped filming, he sold off the twins' birthday to ET.
Jon was going to be more than happy to have his children model Ed Hardy.
Funny, TLC didn't stop Jon from working with the French Designer.
"Jon is hopeful he may have found a new career. "I'm excited," he told PEOPLE from a Saint-Tropez café, looking relaxed and happy. "The kids will model the line once it comes out." (Asked if he thinks Kate would be okay with that plan, Jon cannot say—literally. "Kate and I agreed to a 45-day period in which we wouldn't talk about each other," he explains. "After that we might be able to speak more freely.") Still he couldn't help but gush about his future. "Little did I know that wearing Christian's T-shirts would end up with me working with him. I'm excited. It will be a totally new challenge for me." And one that he looks forward to meeting with Hailey. "I'm not much of a designer, but Hailey is a natural. She'll have a lot of input, and I will too. She's my creative secret weapon." By the end of the weekend, plans for a children's line had been put on hold, with Audigier telling PEOPLE he and Jon would first collaborate on a line for adults inspired by Jon's love of motorcycles. Tentative name for the new fashions? Hollywood Rebel. "
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20292569,00.html
Excellent recap of the facts Micha,no matter how people try to spin it the timeline is clear,Jon did not object to filming until he was cut from the show. I do not think Kate is a perfect parent,I think she can be cold at times and very strict. However I will never fault her for trying to provide the best possible home and school for her children,not to mention the opportunities that TLC has provided them. Raising 8 children is a huge financial responsibility and I'm sure Kate knew early on that she would not be able to depend on Jon.Let's be realistic here,money isn't everything but it can certainly help make life easier.and provide opportunities to help the children in their future,as parents isn't that what we all strive for?
That Christian Audigier/Ed Hardy thing always stuck in my mind too. Audigier was fabulously wealthy to be able to live that lifestyle in Provence, and could afford to throw ideas around. Jon seemed giddily excited that his kids would model these clothes even though he hadn't talked to their mother about it, nor probably the kids either. To say he was happily free is hurtful to the kids, especially as they were probably very confused and trying to comfort their mother too. Been there. Around that same time, he was also photographed leaving bars with young coeds and rumored to being with one of the nannies.
It is THAT behavior that turned people off. He could not get out of his own way despite all the negative press and he just continued on that path. He has done some weird reality stuff (http://www.eonline.com/news/641981/jon-gosselin-buries-his-ed-hardy-t-shirt-in-the-middle-of-times-square-watch-the-bizarre-video-now) to keep his face out there and he still refers to himself as a public figure.
Nobody is preventing Jon working form working in IT. My husband is in high tech and there is a shortage of qualified people to do the many jobs available in that field. His company hires many people on H1-B visas (despite the hassle to the employer). We have a pretty heavy tech presence here, but go to the Silicon Valley - you will see oodles of people obviously on H1-B visas from other countries.
I hope Ex Nurse reads here sometimes. She has been lambasted for daring to have a contrary opinion about Jon over there.
Not So,
Thanks for the civil conversation. Do you really think that all the money is there for years of education and college funds is in place? When those kids are ready for college, the costs will probably double again. I don't care how well you invest, the market will dictate interest rates on those accounts. Also, those accounts are for education, not the huge bills for todays activities. I asked about paying cs, it's not whether Jon can afford it or not, he went to court to sign off his kids to GET OUT of paying support and because Kate was kind enough to let him off, he spent no time in jail. This is what you call a responsible Father. Jon can say sorry till the cows come home, that will never excuse him for what he has done and continues to do.
Just because at a moment in time when a Mother makes more than a Dad does, does not forgive cs. Jon sold a few stories in the past weeks, wonder if he paid any of the kids bills? Jon should be ashamed of what he has done and continues to do. Jon could get a job with benefits so that his kids could maybe have some medical insurance instead of Kate paying for everything. Kate saved money from the show, do you think that lasts forever?
Even if Jon doesn't 'have' to pay child support, he could still pay part of the school expenses directly to the school, or the health insurance premium, or something, so that the money didn't go directly to Kate and still benefits the kids. It would be the honorable thing to do. It doesn't matter if she's a billionaire - they are his kids too.
I always get a bit tickled when people talk about the Gosselin children working and how it's so terrible. For their sporadic filming now, it's a very cushy job. I went to a pumpkin patch the other day. It was a family-run farm. I saw the children working to help make it successful. It was a great patch! An Asian restaurant that I frequent sometimes has the middle-school daughter working the cash register. Then she's off to a corner table to do her homework. I'm sure that there are many examples of children working for their family that has some real labor involved.
That's kind of my point, Francie! Kate thinks it's work for her but play for the kids!
Oh well.
While I think fathers should support their kids, J&K's agreement doesn't bother me. Jon wasted his money, he wasn't thinking of the kids. He seemed to think he could it keep it rolling in. He's fortunate Kate manages well and has a way to support his children. Kate stepped in and saved his butt from spending some time in jail. Kate is an ant, Jon is a grasshopper. What's awful about the situation, is that Jon gives Kate no credit or respect for doing so. He's attacked her publicly several times. All, for his own benefit.
Jon will probably always put himself before his children and that's very sad for them.
Lollipop,
I don't know any of them personally either, but for those so called journals, the true journal has never been published that I have seen. I think most of it was fabricated to make Kate look sick and mentally ill, and when you have allowed a stalker around your kids ( Jon's old friend) I would have come unglued at what that author was doing watching that family like he admitted. I do think Kate had very stressful times when Jon was gone to work and probably yelled and screamed a lot. She seemed indifferent about things and highly stressed over other things. I hope people would feel some sympathy for what Kate and the kids endured during Hoff's rants fueled by Jon to get back at her. Jon has ruined his relationship with his kids when they are old enough to really know what Jon did behind the scenes, lie and feeding Hoff bait. Hoff took the downfall for Jon. I don't believe for one minute anything was found in the garbage, it was doctored by Jon and Hoff. This is only a opinion, I have no idea what is true or false.
If Jon was so sure the journal was true, why not a book tour with Hoff to promote it? Hoff could have done what he wanted with HIS own book, so what if you are sued, he could present his case in court. I don't care if you have money or big lawyers, if you have nothing to worry about and can back up your info with true facts, you have nothing to worry about.
PJ,
I think Kate thinks it's work, because she has to schedule the couple of shows that they do. She has to handle the financial end of things, while do everything for the kids 7 days a week. The kids aren't old enough to drive, so that is left up to her, bus schedules, shopping for them, groceries, etc. It's like a vacation for the kids to go places, yet I remember when my family went on vacation, my Mom was in charge in making sure everyone was packed, etc. Kate is OCD, this is here biggest downfall, she thinks everything has be just be so.
I have no idea what TLC pays for, but their will always be unexpected expenses not covered by any show.
I never thought Kate was real comfortable being a celebrity. I believe her to be a shy person...socially awkward, if you will. Jon is much more comfortable with it and can schmooze.
Kate is right when she says they can't go back. There is no way that she ever could get a nursing job. She has 8 kids to raise and it has landed on her shoulders to do it. You do what you have to do to give your kids a comfortable life.
I'd like to know what sort of luxurious life the minions think Kate is living? What luxuries to they think the kids are providing her? We usually only see her when she's on a show... and when she's on any show, the show pays for her expenses. (Getting your nails done is not a luxury for most moms. Sorry.)
The rest of the time she seems to be in jeans or a jogging suit like any other normal mom. Why is it hard to believe that taking care of a house for eight kids is not work? Despite the ridiculous comments that she has full time help and a full time chef, she doesn't.
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