For those still interested in CT here is an edited preview.
Dr. Jenn brings compatibility experts from an online dating company in for a group exercise. After the couples fill out a probing questionnaire, Dr. Jenn reveals that all of the couples are compatible except Ghost and Kelsey, and Jon and Liz. Jon and Liz are shocked and upset, and threaten to quit Couples Therapy. Dr. Jenn reminds Jon and Liz that the activity was meant not meant to judge, but rather to teach the couples ways they can improve their compatibility. After seeing Liz and Jon fight with Dr. Jenn about the compatibility test, the group tells the couple that they feel Liz is not a good match for Jon, which upsets them both.
Jon is not compatable with anyone. He is a weak manipulative baby man. He hooks up with strong women because he wants someone to take care of him. Kate has to be thanking her lucky stars that she is no longer married to him.
Haven't seen the show, but sounds like the only thing left for Jon to blame is his childhood and his Father's drinking and his Mom staying with a guy who drank.
I saw some clips, what's with the grey hoodies? Clean it up Jon.
Oh my, Jon & Liz are upset because the good doc and other couples aren't saying what they want to hear. Say it ain't so. Lets face it, until you are a functioning adult you won't be a good fit with anyone.
I taped the program, skipping commercials and all the others, Jon got a few more minutes tonight. Seems they are like the leftovers on the program, he doesn't fit with the other couples and Liz looks like she wants no part of them. He wanted to quit? Blamed TLC, but no mention he wanted to have a better life for his kids. How sad he has spent so much time blaming others, he just needs to man up and take his responsibilities for his kids. He needs to focus on getting his children to forgive him, and forget about a gf at this point in his life. If Jon was truthful he would tell the real story of all the gf's, he needs a babysitter to help him take care of them 4 days a month when they visit. I do hope Jon can at least succeed at this.
I noticed both Liz and him smoke like no tomorrow, no way would I want my kids closed up in a cabin with this, imo. The hoodies are creepy, what's the point, others have on light weight clothes, so it isn't cold.
Interesting. So, according to the compatibility test Jon and Liz took, they feel constrained by their family life and by being a parent They want to cut loose more than they are able.
That's pretty sad for an every other weekend dad.
Lol at Jon's hissy fit that the test didn't come out the way he wanted.
Quilt, Jon sure is implying it. Dr. Jenn must have walked away from the show thinking he has the kids all the time. Sage had posted this link on another thread. It's the therapist's blog about episode 3.
"This is also a couple with eleven children between them, how does that affect their relationship?
It affects their relationship tremendously. You can’t even conceive of how much stress they are under, it really is off the charts. It’s like having a kindergarten in your house every day, it’s intense."
OMIGOD! Some of the Minions have seen the light re Jon! I won't get to see last night's CT until I get home (finally)!! -- but it sounds like it was a doozy!
It's pretty much always been clear what Jon is. He is a slacker who wants to sit back and somehow thinks the money will just come to him, and he won't have to actually work or make a real effort to achieve anything. And it happened, too, didn't it? That was what J&K+8 gave him. He didn't have to "work" a 9-5 job anymore, he didn't have to "educate" himself so that he could get a good paying job, he didn't have to work on a craft or skill. He just sat around, did his thing, had Kate around to do most of the child rearing, and the money came to him.
But even that wasn't good enough for him. He was jealous of Kate's blossoming career as she travelled to book signings and he was left to - gasp - take care of his kids, for days and days! Sometimes for THREEE days in a ROW! And that's not sitting around doing nothing, that's real work - so of course he wouldn't stand for that.
I think Jon is more than willing to deprive his kids and deprive himself if it means he can deprive Kate. The guy is all about spite, at any cost. He puts even it ahead of everything, even his kids.
Whaaaat ? St Jon savior of his children isn't family oriented ? And neither is Liz? Eleven children between them and both are not likely to put family first or be devoted to them? WHAT A SURPRISE ! (Not)
To take the spotlight off of Jon being unstable, we now have the sweet moment of Alexis saying "mommy" when Kate came home from her belly tuck, turned into fear in Alexis eyes.She was scared that Kate was back and was going to beat her.You can't make this stuff up people. Oh wait, yes they just did. They need to go write Fan fic somewhere where they can use their imaginations for fun.
Of course, it is still Kate's fault. I swear, I have never seen people excuse a man so. Poor wittle Jonnie was victimized so he will remain a victim all of his poor pathetic life.
Yeesh, in the real world even true victims have responsibilities.
What show were they watching when J&K was on the air? They act as if Jon never yelled or fought w/Kate, only that he was brow-beaten.
At best, Jon WAS a poster boy for hen-pecked husbands. He doesn't even qualify for that anymore as they have been divorced for awhile. That's hardly an excuse for his behavior before, during and after his divorce. Jon has only been about Jon without any thought to his kids.
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Dwindle said... 57
Bitchy Pants, I agree with you about Jon. Whatever maturity and sense of self he had at age 20 when he threw himself at TFW's mercy, disappeared under her iron grip and her constant need to lash out at him and blame him for every pimple on her butt. I wish, for the sake of the kids, that he had emerged with wisdom and maturity, but it looks as if he is still a work in progress.
Just like she has done to the children, whatever individual personality, goals, drives, dreams he had in the beginning, she destroyed in order to control him and have him do her bidding 100%. "*Snap Snap* Jon, your words! Express the opinion that I decided you have! " February 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM
I know I would lose respect for my helpmate if they couldn't see for themselves what was needed and step up to the plate. Kate chose him so the blame isn't all on him but what a disappointment.
To take the spotlight off of Jon being unstable, we now have the sweet moment of Alexis saying "mommy" when Kate came home from her belly tuck, turned into fear in Alexis eyes.She was scared that Kate was back and was going to beat her.You can't make this stuff up people. Oh wait, yes they just did.
Ugh. Is this a new low? Taking a precious and beautiful moment with a beautiful baby and her mama and out and out lying about it - even though it's captured on film for all the world to see! Anybody whoever saw Alexis saying "hi mommy, hi mommy!" and claimed that was anything but pure joy and happiness that baby was feeling and showing is so sick that it's tragic. Actually, it's beyond sickness, it's evil to say such a thing about that sweet moment. I think these haters live to take the joy out of life and make everyone feel sick.
Sadie May, Their imaginations have gone while. They are (of course) rewatching episodes (of a show they hate) and rewriting every script. They beyond cra-cra!
BTW, Minions, Jon, himself, has said when his parents divorced, he sided with his dad, so you have to wonder what his relationship with his mother was like. Kate was not the first woman in his life.
Rosie said... I know I would lose respect for my helpmate if they couldn't see for themselves what was needed and step up to the plate. Kate chose him so the blame isn't all on him but what a disappointment.
Kate "chose" him so who he is isn't all on him?
Jon is like a lot of men who think if they do as little as possible, wifey will do it all. She'll go to work, come home, take care of the kids, cook, clean, and hubby can come home from work and play with the kids for a few minutes before sitting himself in front of the tv for the night! That might work fine with a family of 4 - Kate might have actually been able to handle that, but when there are 8 little ones to deal with, there's no time to allow your PARTNER in marriage to be a slacker. How many times on the show did we see Kate telling Jon not to "hide" in the closet - where his computer was - because there was work to be done? How many times did Jon do his best to try to put off cleaning up and getting things done, because HE wanted to play?
Kate had "expectations" that her husband would be a "partner" in their marriage and he'd do his part, and she was wrong about that, but I don't think she was wrong to HAVE that expectation to begin with. Who wants to get married, have kids and then realize that your husband is your oldest child instead of your partner?
I 100% agree with you Micha, and yes, a lot of men are like that. I just think Kate must have had a clue before the tups what Jon was about. I'm sure she thought he would rise to the occasion but she thought wrong. A lot of times we believe the person we chose have qualities they just don't have. When they don't live up to who we think they are its like they did us wrong when what was wrong was who we chose. Jon was never anything more then a squirrel, and that was on his best days.
I'm going back and watching the tummy tuck epi. The interviewer asked Jon if he was resentful of Kate and the decision to have more kids. He said no...how can he be resentful of a decision they made together. Kate asked if he was sure and he said yes. She said, "Thank you." It was touching.
They did seem in love during that time, didn't they Francie?
If Jon's so happy to be rid of Kate like the hater's claim, then why does he seem so darn regretful? Why wasn't he thanking TLC for setting him free from big bad Kate? JMO but I think he's hung up on her and wishes they were still together.
Can you imagine? This is what Kate dealt with while the twins were young and sextuplets were babies. Jon's temper tantrums and childish behavior..I would guess she still deals with it.
No wonder the twins don't want to visit their dad.
Sage, I totally agree. I wouldn't be surprised if Liz was a major part of the reason that the twins no longer want to visit him, too... along with her kids and dogs.
After seeing Jon's behavior on CT I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell that Jon would get custody of the kids.
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Even before CT, Jon's behavior, lifestyle, attitude and inability to even contribute to raising his kids financially would have made custody of his children an impossibility.
Jon just went on a tantrum tour for the press, upset that his own children exposed how lacking he is as a parent, and so of course he would blame Kate, lash out at her, make outrageous claims about her "mental stability," and say he wanted "temporary" custody. Even though he says he believes Kate isn't "stable" he STILL can't even say he wants his kids full time?
I don't for a minute believe that Jon actually wants any sort of custody of his kids. That would really cut into his lying around and doing nothing time. What has Jon done since doing those interviews? Has he filed anything with the courts, or does he believe that talking InTouch and E!News equals filing papers with the courts in PA?
Latest gate is CookbookPhotoGate. One of the haters found that one of the photos in Kate's book is a stock photo. Never mind that the photos are credited to another source and Kate did not take the photos or style the photos and food herself. Never matter WHO did what. It's Kate's fault. Why don't these evil people just leave her alone???
Sage, the comments on radaronline have been pretty harsh. At BL's they have shifted the focus to their own personal health problems. Very telling, IMHO.
Hmm, changing the subjects really fast on a blog is VERY telling. It may come home to roost yet, just saying.:)
Stock photo's are a norm in business. Ever see how they make a dish for a magazine, you can't even eat it when they are done with it. Silly people who have no idea how the real world works.
They should be paying attention to the lawsuit that BV has filed against their hero instead of dissecting a cookbook that they've already done their best to sabotage!
That lawsuit seems very serious,if those people can cause that kind of damage and fear to bulleyville and his family I can only imagine the damage that they have done to Kate and her career over the years. This has gone way to far, the hate and need for revenge is dangerous and scary.
Last night I found a blog called itsabouttruth.wordpress.com, where they bragged about getting to all of BV's advertisers to stop advertising with him, except one, and they were still working on that one. (Of course, now, the blog has been deleted.) My point is, that I have always said, that this is EXACTLY what they did to Kate. They did whatever they could to keep her from working and bragged about that, too. What evil people! I hope BV gets them all!
Oh my goodness, they are just losing it over this pic thing.
I'm not an aficionado of cookbooks or anything. But, I used to enjoy them. I cleared out a bunch several years ago and only kept my favorites.
I could care less who took the pics or made the food for the pics. (For one thing, Betty Crocker is not a real person whipping up dinners in her kitchen. Lol). Don't tell, but some of my cookbooks don't even have pictures!! You actually have to read the list of ingredients to see if it's something you would like to make. Can you imagine?
The want to blame Kate for anything and everything. The credits in her book list several photographers, a recipe tester and a food stylist. The publisher arranges for the design of the book, not the author. They've already killed the book for her. I wonder who they have already called to "report" her on this latest round. It never seems to end, does it?4
In the reruns of their mind, the haters have forgotten that Jon had a temper.
Jon loses his temper, pouts like a child on CT and "it's all Kate's fault" and "men are just that way."
I've never seen such coddling of a grown man.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 144
I don't understand Jon's upset either. Jon knows he loves his children and he should know there is nothing wrong with deciding not to have anymore after having eight. I don't know why some hack test from a hack web site with a terrible reputation for just being a hook-up spot for cheaters and losers (that's not to say there may be many decent people on the site and healthy relationships, but there's no denying its shady reputation) would upset him. HE knows how he feels about his kids, so why be upset about what someone else says. Maybe it felt like the final straw for him after putting up with Kate insulting him as a father for the past five years. Maybe it just felt like he can't take it anymore.
What I have learned about men is that they take their role as father and husband and provider very seriously and when you insult that they seem to get far more bent out of shape than most women do. February 16, 2014 at 8:01 AM
You're right! They have completely rewritten Jon's history to match what they have fantasised him to be. Jon was not an innocent in the failure of his marriage. It takes two. Kate put up with a lot from him over 10 years, including him not being able to hold a job.
Personally, I don't give a shite what the Twitter haters tweet to Kate. It's not my problem and if someone can't discern the difference between what's rigorously and respectfully discussed here and the excrement that's flung on Kate's timeline, it's just not my problem.
Let them play in their sandbox and we'll play in ours ;-)
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That's how I feel about it. There has been this small group of over the top "haters" for years now. I don't think they make us look bad, why would they? That's not what goes on here. Like you said, if someone can't tell the difference between that and a rational conversation, that's really their problem, nor should we really care. The people here are rational and fair by and large, which is why I let the comments through and continue to engage with you. I like this sandbox and don't much care about other sandboxes and what they're up to, never have. February 16, 2014 at 7:31 AM
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Doesn't she realize that some of the "over the top" haters post on 15mins too? Under different names and toned down posts but they do post there. She can't be that naive.
They really do think highly of themselves, don't they? There are some who post their regularly who are just as vile and hate-filled as the twitter haters. DELUSIONAL!
Be kind, people. You must not realize that poor little Jonny boy was like an orphan in Oliver Twist during his marriage.
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Pants on Fire said... 147
I expect more maturity from Jon, yet, for the duration of his marriage Jon (like his 8 children) was like an orphan in Oliver Twist. Jon's maturation got frozen in time (I believe that he started the marriage out immature to begin with - that's why TCFW selected him). Jon worked day and night for his family, yet without a whiff of physical or emotional affection from the Orphanage Matron, TCFW. Jon got nothing but beat down.
Be kind, people. You must not realize that poor little Jonny boy was like an orphan in Oliver Twist during his marriage.
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Pants on Fire said... 147
I expect more maturity from Jon, yet, for the duration of his marriage Jon (like his 8 children) was like an orphan in Oliver Twist. Jon's maturation got frozen in time (I believe that he started the marriage out immature to begin with - that's why TCFW selected him). Jon worked day and night for his family, yet without a whiff of physical or emotional affection from the Orphanage Matron, TCFW. Jon got nothing but beat down.
... HE knows how he feels about his kids, so why be upset about what someone else says. Maybe it felt like the final straw for him after putting up with Kate insulting him as a father for the past five years. Maybe it just felt like he can't take it anymore.
What I have learned about men is that they take their role as father and husband and provider very seriously and when you insult that they seem to get far more bent out of shape than most women do." February 16, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Someone pointed out that it was the incompatibility result Jon was upset about. He wasn't having a tantrum because the test deemed him to be non-family oriented. So, BL had to switch up her excuse.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 168
I think Jon and Liz were honest about the eleven kids. Liz was very clear that they are both very family oriented and adore their kids but that of course eleven kids is a lot on their plates. It would overwhelm anyone. Kate herself complains about all the responsibility of the kids ALL THE TIME. I'd prefer that as opposed to happy happy joy joy everything is just fine. That's not realistic. And Liz made a HUGE face of disbelief when they said she wasn't family oriented, as in that's total B.S. what are you TALKING about? They got over that ridiculous statement because they knew it was nonsense. Like Whitney being honest that she is tempted (by ICECREAM) they were honest 11 kids is a lot.
I think the reason he reacted to being incompatible is because he knew there was a grain of truth to it, whereas the other stuff he was more confident about so didn't care so much if they wanted to say inaccurate things. February 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM
So,. which is it? At first, BL says Jon got bent out of shape (as most men would) because he takes his role as father and provider so seriously. Then, BL changes it to Jon being soooo secure with those roles that he let those inaccuracies slide and only focused on the incompatibility part.
So how does the head cheese know how a Father would feel? She mocked her own Father and Mother for taking her to Olive Garden. She is not married, nor have any children, she should save that advice for all the clients that don't get good service from her. I doubt Jon cares what she says at this point, he lost every court case he ever had.
Well, BL is at it again. Her convoluted reasoning about Jon's reaction on CT should make her Minions' heads explode with joy. She is blind to reality (and reality TV) for sure. http://www.realitytvkids.com/2014/02/recap-couples-therapy-episode-7-cone.html#comment-form
Since when did TLC paint Jon as the bad guy. They made Kate as the bad guy and Jon the laid back guy. Bl must be getting dizzy the way she spins things. BL, even Jon said he was over the Kate years so don't blame Kate for Jon being a deadbeat. He worked hard that being that on his own.Your worship of him is embarrassing. Your posters must be laughing at you behind your back.
Note to sheeple....embarassing your children does n'o make one a bad parent. Smoking does not make one a bad parent. Drinking does not make one a bad parent. Using "bad words" does not make one a bad parent. However, continually for years upon years trying to alienate ones children from their father DOES make one a bad parent.
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Drinking doesn't make someone a bad parent? Yes it does.Jons drinking is clearly out of hand. Swearing like he does can alienate a child from their parent.It embarrasses children when parents swear like he does. I see Becky is implying that Kate has been drunk when the kids have friends over. Who is your source for that Becky? Hoffman? The man is a known liar. Plus I thought the kids NEVER had friends over. Make up your mind. Jon is a far more embarrassing parent than Kate could ever be.
Jon's allowed to smoke and drink. Kate is kicked around for wasting the kids' money on mani/pedis/tanning (even though she has said, she takes the girls and they have mani/pedis).
The kids aren't affected by Jon's drinking and smoking. Kate's children will suffer horribly from Kate's example in her eating habits, running, tanning, fashion choices, etc.
Of course, their biggest hypocrisy is that Jon is allowed to live a public life, bash Kate, talk about his children, and work in the field of his choosing. They want Kate to completely disappear. She can't even do a sweet little family cookbook without being mercilessly attacked.
Jon smokes like a chimney so now Kate's a smoker too, and they're okay with that? They wouldn't have double standards, would they? Nah....but there must be some way to attack Kate for allegedly doing what they know Jon does. I know! Since they've never seen Kate smoking they must be against the "secrecy" of her "smoking." Secrecy is bad and evil! If Kate smoked on camera and in interviews the way Jon does...then they'd be okay with it, since they're okay with Jon doing it! Oh, wrong, everything Kate does is wrong, even if she's doing exactly what their hero Jon does.
You are so right in saying the haters can't make up their minds ( or otherwise keep track of their crazy ramblings). They apply different standards at will, always critical of Kate & always enabling Jon to act so worthless.
Those hypocrites think its totally OK that Jon blew thru his share of the money from the show.
This is what gets me- Apparently Jon got a share from working on the show BUT Kate did not. All her money is the kids money. All the money shes earned since (DWTS CWS & so on) is the kids money. All the money Jons earned since is HIS HIS HIS! That woman hung around the area when Jon had custody, Jon on his off weeks couldn't party hard enough or travel far enough away from his kids. But according to them, that's just fine that he BLEW thru the kids money while Kate saved for education & hard times to come. I hope someone Kate like is running their lives for them while they're sitting on the computer or otherwise they must be in a pitiful state, just like Jon is without her.
My, oh my, the BL is good for some laughs today. The woman who runs a blog dedicated to picking apart every move made and every word spoken by Kate is going off because some posters have dared to state that being a smoker is bad role modeling.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 44
Point being, there are literally hundreds of things that parents do that COULD harm their children or COULD result in something bad happening. But to stand here in judgment and say that a divorced mother or father, that a mother or father who are poor, or that a mother or father who smokes is a BAD PARENT, is over the top pearl clutching.
I don't require parents to be perfect. I don't require it of Jon nor of Kate. I think they should do the best they can and that they're not going to do everything perfect, nor is every parent. As long as you do not emotionally or physically abuse your kids, I have no interest or desire in being so God damn hard on people. Compassion. Understanding. Leaving people be to parents their own children without constant judgment.
BL doesn't require perfection from Kate? Did I read that right?!?!
Excellent point about the money Montana!
Looks like you're right Sadie. Of course if the courts ever had an issue with Jon's smoking I'm sure the minions would spin it that he has to smoke to relieve stress due to something Kate did........blah blah blah.
Sally said... 80 I was one of the people who contacted the Red Cross, totally on my own, about their ad on Cheaterville. They were displeased to put it mildly and asked me to please contact them again if their ads ever showed up on any of those sites again. I don't think the Red Cross representative would ask me to call him if there was anything wrong with what I did. February 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM
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I agree. As long as you don't say anything libelous you can contact a company if you want and even do so quite vigorously and passionately. And if you are harassing the company that's really between you and the company, not the person you are contacting them about.
If you are saying libelous things about a company or someone, that could be another matter. However not always! At least for CA lawyers we are forbidden from responding to criticism from clients, even if they say blatantly false things about you. We cannot respond, per our Bar. It's frustrating to hear a client say you never contacted them when you have a stack of two dozen emails back and forth proving otherwise, but that's the way it is. If you have an issue with that you need not apply to the CA bar.
Pot meet kettle. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
Haters say this describes US. They need to reread, because it's Them to a T!
My, oh my, the BL is good for some laughs today. The woman who runs a blog dedicated to picking apart every move made and every word spoken by Kate is going off because some posters have dared to state that being a smoker is bad role modeling. ~Nameless in LA
How dare someone mention Jon's smoking? Don't they know Kate complained about the snow and mentioned Shirley Temple's passing?
I can't believe BL wrote the below, she's spent years ripping Kate apart. I'm surprised her keyboard didn't melt.
"I have no interest or desire in being so God damn hard on people. Compassion. Understanding. Leaving people be to parents their own children without constant judgment."
Is she trying to say that what she's been spewing against Kate for years is not "constant judgment?"
I think this is the point where you have to start feeling numb because it's clear that BL is really living in an alternate universe. What can you really say? No words can do her justice. "Delusional" is just too mild a word. She seems to be the type of person you back away from slowly so that she doesn't really notice you're backing away, and then as soon as you're at the door you turn and run as fast as you can - like in a horror movie. So creepy.
Question? If what Kate has done in the minds of the 15 minions is considered parental alienation, what in the world is what Jon has done by bashing Kate over and over again on TV and in press? Their tin foil antennae must need readjusting, because they have no idea what goes on in Kate's house, do they? It's all in their minds and when their minds are empty, as they often are, they dredge up something that happened eight years ago. Jon gave as good as he got on J&K+8, but they have erased all that in their rewrite of history.
BL is writing yards and yards trying to justify her smashing of Kate and canonizing of St. Jon.
Just an excerpt, cause BL is running on just too long. It shouldn't be that hard to explain should it? ;)
Uhm, Kate has full legal custody. I'm pretty sure things have gone the way she wanted.
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.."The fact that she's whined so much so often to the public suggests to me that she isn't getting what she wants out of the judge about him. Otherwise she would be happy as a clam. She's clearly frustrated and furious about Jon and the freedom he's gotten out of the family law courts to do the sort of things that annoy her."...
Just an FYI Bullyville has posted a very telling tweet about our favorite all knowing attorney.Looks as if Mr.McG hasn't forgotten or forgiven.Let's hope not anyway.Winning!
This is funny. From the blog that reads every tweet she makes and mocks them. NO.SELF.AWARENESS
Paula said... 197 So Milo spends her days and nights tweeting to/about Kate Gosselin and reading this blog. Good lord woman (or whatever you are ) GET.A.LIFE.
So is the birth fetish site still up and going? Maybe one of the dear leaders posters could bring everyone up to date how much money the lawyer has made off it.
Kate is "frustrated and furious" about Jon? lol She doesn't see him, doesn't talk to him, some of the kids see him every other weekend and once a week (according to JON). What's to be "frustrated and furious" about on Kate's end?
Jon did his interviews where he had his little tantrum about not being able to go to the front door of KATE's house - didn't he sound like a little boy whining because Kate could keep him off the property and he no likey - and how he was so worried about the kids and wanting TEMPORARY custody and blah blah blah...and then, NOTHING. He must be so very worried to not do ANYTHING about what he claims to be worried about. lol
When is this going to court to petition for temporary custody going to actually happen? If it's as urgent as Jon likes to claim it is, shouldn't Jon be moving heaven and earth to "save" his kids?
It's the haters who should be "frustrated and furious." Their "hero" is all talk and no action. Jon's actions don't match his words so, what to conclude? It sure does look like he's either exaggerating the "situation" that he claims exists where he feels he should have custody or he's not exaggerating but he doesn't care enough to follow through! Wow, what a "hero!"
Kate has never done anything that remotely resembles what Jon has done to bash her. If the minions had a brain, they would realize that the only reason she took the twins on TV was to answer the insults that their father made about them to the press.
LOL, wonder how she would be on a witness stand? Is she going to plea that Jon made her post her hate about Kate and the kids? She has talked about other people's children on her blog also, hmmm, will be interesting. Her posters should expect free lawyer representation if called into court, that's the least she could do.
BethWalt77 @ManzillaKilla · 1h Curious @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 if you had to describe Jon's new girlfriend in one word... What would be the word?
Hailey Glassman @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 · 35m Temporary.....@ManzillaKilla RT: Curious @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 if you had to describe Jon's new girlfriend in one word... What would be the word?
Good grief! Now we are onto diapergate. It never ends, does it!?!
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Somewhere In Time said... 55 Kate tweeted:
A bedtime lesson in diapering their babies..w REAL pampers! They screeched w delight when I honored their request! pic.twitter.com/5Rbeze7zy1
What a screeching and shrieking family that must be. Ten year olds are just too old to be screeching about diapering a doll. They just are. February 18, 2014 at 6:05 PM
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10h @Kateplusmy8 Do U have time 2clear up a rumor again? Some R insisting U are a secret smoker...have been 4yrs. Please set them straight!!
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Maybe the answer is not what Milo is hoping for. I also think Jon like most people probably started smoking as a very young adult and often non smokers don't want to be with a smoker. I think given what we know about Kate and her wanting to run a bit on the wild side, she may very well have been a smoker or even still is.
But Milo is missing the point. It's not about that. The reason I brought that up was to say I don't care about Kate smoking any more than I do Jon and that on the list of things these kids will be discussing with a therapist someday, that will probably be at the very bottom. ////////////////
How long before they say it was Kate that got Jon hooked on smoking.
She's not concerned about Jon smoking, yet he has money to buy cigs and booze and not pay cs. Real child advocates would look at the financial side of the main issue in any household, imo. It's like she sprinkles fairy dust on the big issues in raising children, and throws the bone for a big chew on things no one who is a parent would give a rats azz about.
I thought BL went on a tangent once because Kate insisted on cooking with that rare, exotic, highfalutin, high priced item called...........wait for it.........it's pretty shocking .......OLIVE OIL!! A real budget crusher! (eyeroll)
I don't believe for one second that BL would let it slide if Kate said she smoked. She'd maybe be able to control herself for one post & then she'd hop on the, "It's okay if the parent that has the kids for less time does it, but not the main parent" train....and the magic fluctuating visitation percentage would somehow be reduced to less than her earlier claim of 50/50 again.........
BTW, the average price of a pack of cigarettes in PA is almost $7.00 and Jon chain smokes them on CT. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent $14,00/day. Geez.....Kate's olive oil habit pales in comparison.
The little girls are 9 and turn 10 in May. The haters deem their playing w/dolls as immature.
They complain the G kids' childhood has been stolen away by evil Kate and TLC, but then BL condemns their doll playing as "regressive."
For child advocates, they sure have a cookie cutter idea of childhood development. I never knew that children had to give up their dolls by age 9.
Nine and 10yo Kids playing with dolls is not "regressive" or "dysfunctional." They grow up fast enough, kids don't need to be pushed out of their childhoods.
So, in BL's mind, Jon's smoking doesn't compare to the wretchedness of Kate buying pampers and teaching the little girls how to diaper their babies. That's such a weird thing to compare... a bad health trait vs. playing w/your children.
BL's analytics are so strange. Look how much she can surmise from a couple of Kate's tweets. BL's power is awesome and her minions bow at her feet.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78
Once in a blue moon, she could write that THEY had pizza for dinner. Not that SHE fed them them
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That is another thing she does is turn everything around so that SHE is doing it and getting credit for it. She can't just say we played with dolls tonight, it has to be all about how she arranged it. She can't just say we had delicious pizza tonight, it has to be about how SHE prepared it and fed it. I don't think this is insignificant at all, I think it's highly indicative of a narcissistic personality disorder.
And this sort of proves my point. In one tweet we see a mother who is looking for all the credit and accolades making the tweet all about her, we see a mother again using bizarre and impersonal language about her children like "honored" their "requests", we see a mother babying children and encouraging regressive behavior and encouraging activities better suited to 5 year olds instead of age-approrpiate interests, we see a mother embarrassing her children by tweeting it to the world so that tomorrow all their friends can laugh at them playing with their babies.
I will take a father smoking outside OUT BACK when his children are three-thousand miles away (can second hand smoke travel that far?) any day over the above dysfunction. That kind of dysfunction is just so far and away from anything Jon has ever done it's not even funny. And that's why I agree with what Millicent said--I rest my case! :) February 18, 2014 at 7:54 PM
BL really should be looking at her own "dysfunction." When you're whole life is tearing apart every little thing a mom does...what kind of life is that? Is this woman afraid to have a real life? And how many women are there out there like her, living vicariously through Kate, watching her and talking about everything they would do differently? When are they ever going to see that they are wasting so much time watching someone else live and judging!? This nothing life is like their "security blanket." Blanky needs to be put away.
Pressed "Publish" too soon. I really still believe those women could have productive lives if they let go of watching Kate and judging her 24/7. Why is hating Kate their "comfort item" in life? I just wonder why they don't seem to want productive lives and choose to be angry and obsessive.
So BL, a woman that made sure to include a category featuring teenagers giving birth on the fetish site she ran, is now an expert on what is and what is not age appropriate behavior? Uh.....okay....
So Jon only smokes outside when he is thousands of miles away. ROTF, did someone REALLY say that? He smoked as he pi%%ed in his friends driveway and at his cabin, someone needs to catch up.
I was wondering is there any news on Jon and his "noble" plans to get "temporary" custody from Kate and all the other "blah" he said? Or was the interview with E! it, and he's done?
I read all the backlash from those interviews, it seems the majority of comments, even from people who don't like Kate at all, still think Jon is full of it, completely incapable and not really interested in taking care of the kids, no matter what he claimed in the interview. Nobody's buying it, so does that mean Jon's given up on trying to sell it?
As far as I can see he only did more damage to his own measly reputation.
Jon's new story will be " I'm broke, can't hire a lawyer to get my kids". Wonder who will finally sell him out or WHO he will sell out for a few bucks.
Another day, another gate. Anyone following massage gate? The BL is allowing comments implying that Kate is engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior with her children. That's really crossing the line. I'm not litigious by nature, but I would to see a defamation suit against her. Enough is enough. ********************** Mel said... 48
No recognition of boundaries there....you're the parent, they're the kid. At the kids' ages, it's hard to establish your authority when needed if they've been giving you back rubs all the time.
It definitely has the eeewww factor. It has a sexual undertone. Not good.
Nameless in LA said... Another day, another gate. Anyone following massage gate? The BL is allowing comments implying that Kate is engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior with her children. That's really crossing the line. I'm not litigious by nature, but I would to see a defamation suit against her. Enough is enough.
OMG...I was talking to a friend about that tweet today (she does not really follow anything Kate G on her own which makes her interesting to talk to re: Kate and the haters who always attack anything Kate does) and her first guess on what the haters would say about it is what you say they are saying! I didn't even guess THAT, (I thought the haters would be all angry that she has the kids "working" to make her comfortable instead of "relaxing" - poor babies!) but I don't know why. Of course that's where they'd go. They are that sick and twisted.
Not even worth being outraged. Other than saying, "Really? Come on.." what else can you say?
People who see a "sexual undertone" in that tweet, all that does is say a lot about YOU, and what it says about you is definitely "not good." Poor things.
Quiltart said... Micha, I guess he's stilling saving his $$$. He certainly should have made enough being on CT!
Hmm...I don't think Jon would want to spend any money he makes on something like going to court to allegedly "save" his kids, but isn't there a "lawyer" out there who would be willing to represent Jon for free - for the good of the kids, of course! Someone who has a blog and claims to not be about judging parents...
Their minds always go to sex. It's sick and pitiful that they'd go there.They're crossing lines now & it should be nipped in the bud. Oh, and DWINDLE, how nice of you and your friends to laugh at your elderly patients tattoo's while you bathe them. Have some respect for them.You shouldn't be working with the elderly if you treat them like that.
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For those still interested in CT here is an edited preview.
Dr. Jenn brings compatibility experts from an online dating company in for a group exercise. After the couples fill out a probing questionnaire, Dr. Jenn reveals that all of the couples are compatible except Ghost and Kelsey, and Jon and Liz. Jon and Liz are shocked and upset, and threaten to quit Couples Therapy. Dr. Jenn reminds Jon and Liz that the activity was meant not meant to judge, but rather to teach the couples ways they can improve their compatibility. After seeing Liz and Jon fight with Dr. Jenn about the compatibility test, the group tells the couple that they feel Liz is not a good match for Jon, which upsets them both.
Jon threatens to walk out on a tv show? Jon questioning the all-knowing reality show therapist??
Lol, NO! It can't be.
Jon is not compatable with anyone. He is a weak manipulative baby man. He hooks up with strong women because he wants someone to take care of him. Kate has to be thanking her lucky stars that she is no longer married to him.
Shawn, how Kate made for 10 years with this man child is what amazes me.
Well said Shawn. "Weak manipulative baby man" is perfect!
I agree Sage. Will never understand how so many people overlooked his behavior.
Haven't seen the show, but sounds like the only thing left for Jon to blame is his childhood and his Father's drinking and his Mom staying with a guy who drank.
I saw some clips, what's with the grey hoodies? Clean it up Jon.
Oh my, Jon & Liz are upset because the good doc and other couples aren't saying what they want to hear.
Say it ain't so.
Lets face it, until you are a functioning adult you won't be a good fit with anyone.
Hmm....Jon said he quit tv before because of how it made HIM feel. So, he didn't quit for the kds.
Jon is the picture perfect narcissist. It is all about him.
If I were Kate Gosselin I would be sick leaving my children with those two selfish foul mouthed whiney and clearly delusional people,imo of course.
Jon as usual...is a crybaby that wants to quit. They are a sloppy couple.
Has anyone ever seen Jon take personal responsibility for anything pertaining to his behavior?
I take it back...they are not sloppy...they are both slobs.
Unfortunately, Jon has an online team of enablers who will always give him a pass. The minions, in the long run, will do him no favors.
I taped the program, skipping commercials and all the others, Jon got a few more minutes tonight. Seems they are like the leftovers on the program, he doesn't fit with the other couples and Liz looks like she wants no part of them.
He wanted to quit? Blamed TLC, but no mention he wanted to have a better life for his kids. How sad he has spent so much time blaming others, he just needs to man up and take his responsibilities for his kids. He needs to focus on getting his children to forgive him, and forget about a gf at this point in his life. If Jon was truthful he would tell the real story of all the gf's, he needs a babysitter to help him take care of them 4 days a month when they visit. I do hope Jon can at least succeed at this.
I noticed both Liz and him smoke like no tomorrow, no way would I want my kids closed up in a cabin with this, imo. The hoodies are creepy, what's the point, others have on light weight clothes, so it isn't cold.
The hoodies are just part of their "brand", and part of Jon's desperate try to regain his lost youth.
Maybe if you live in the woods in PA, the slobby hoodie look is in?
Both of them look, and act classless.
Hi! Trippenin.
Happy St Valentine's day everyone.
And thanks Sage for taking the time you put on your (our) blog.
Interesting. So, according to the compatibility test Jon and Liz took, they feel constrained by their family life and by being a parent They want to cut loose more than they are able.
That's pretty sad for an every other weekend dad.
Lol at Jon's hissy fit that the test didn't come out the way he wanted.
Is Jon still pretending like he has 11 kids all the time???
Quilt, Jon sure is implying it. Dr. Jenn must have walked away from the show thinking he has the kids all the time. Sage had posted this link on another thread. It's the therapist's blog about episode 3.
"This is also a couple with eleven children between them, how does that affect their relationship?
It affects their relationship tremendously. You can’t even conceive of how much stress they are under, it really is off the charts. It’s like having a kindergarten in your house every day, it’s intense."
http://blog.vh1.com/2014-01-16/dr-jenn-on-couples-therapy-episode-3-jon-gosselin/
OMIGOD! Some of the Minions have seen the light re Jon! I won't get to see last night's CT until I get home (finally)!! -- but it sounds like it was a doozy!
It's pretty much always been clear what Jon is. He is a slacker who wants to sit back and somehow thinks the money will just come to him, and he won't have to actually work or make a real effort to achieve anything. And it happened, too, didn't it? That was what J&K+8 gave him. He didn't have to "work" a 9-5 job anymore, he didn't have to "educate" himself so that he could get a good paying job, he didn't have to work on a craft or skill. He just sat around, did his thing, had Kate around to do most of the child rearing, and the money came to him.
But even that wasn't good enough for him. He was jealous of Kate's blossoming career as she travelled to book signings and he was left to - gasp - take care of his kids, for days and days! Sometimes for THREEE days in a ROW! And that's not sitting around doing nothing, that's real work - so of course he wouldn't stand for that.
I think Jon is more than willing to deprive his kids and deprive himself if it means he can deprive Kate. The guy is all about spite, at any cost. He puts even it ahead of everything, even his kids.
Whaaaat ? St Jon savior of his children isn't family oriented ? And neither is Liz? Eleven children between them and both are not likely to put family first or be devoted to them?
WHAT A SURPRISE ! (Not)
To take the spotlight off of Jon being unstable, we now have the sweet moment of Alexis saying "mommy" when Kate came home from her belly tuck, turned into fear in Alexis eyes.She was scared that Kate was back and was going to beat her.You can't make this stuff up people. Oh wait, yes they just did. They need to go write Fan fic somewhere where they can use their imaginations for fun.
Of course, it is still Kate's fault. I swear, I have never seen people excuse a man so. Poor wittle Jonnie was victimized so he will remain a victim all of his poor pathetic life.
Yeesh, in the real world even true victims have responsibilities.
What show were they watching when J&K was on the air? They act as if Jon never yelled or fought w/Kate, only that he was brow-beaten.
At best, Jon WAS a poster boy for hen-pecked husbands. He doesn't even qualify for that anymore as they have been divorced for awhile. That's hardly an excuse for his behavior before, during and after his divorce. Jon has only been about Jon without any thought to his kids.
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Dwindle said... 57
Bitchy Pants, I agree with you about Jon. Whatever maturity and sense of self he had at age 20 when he threw himself at TFW's mercy, disappeared under her iron grip and her constant need to lash out at him and blame him for every pimple on her butt. I wish, for the sake of the kids, that he had emerged with wisdom and maturity, but it looks as if he is still a work in progress.
Just like she has done to the children, whatever individual personality, goals, drives, dreams he had in the beginning, she destroyed in order to control him and have him do her bidding 100%. "*Snap Snap* Jon, your words! Express the opinion that I decided you have! "
February 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM
You know, just the fact that Kate had to write him sticky notes of the things she needed him to do is sad.
I know I would lose respect for my helpmate if they couldn't see for themselves what was needed and step up to the plate.
Kate chose him so the blame isn't all on him but what a disappointment.
Sadie May said...
To take the spotlight off of Jon being unstable, we now have the sweet moment of Alexis saying "mommy" when Kate came home from her belly tuck, turned into fear in Alexis eyes.She was scared that Kate was back and was going to beat her.You can't make this stuff up people. Oh wait, yes they just did.
Ugh. Is this a new low? Taking a precious and beautiful moment with a beautiful baby and her mama and out and out lying about it - even though it's captured on film for all the world to see! Anybody whoever saw Alexis saying "hi mommy, hi mommy!" and claimed that was anything but pure joy and happiness that baby was feeling and showing is so sick that it's tragic. Actually, it's beyond sickness, it's evil to say such a thing about that sweet moment. I think these haters live to take the joy out of life and make everyone feel sick.
Sadie May, Their imaginations have gone while. They are (of course) rewatching episodes (of a show they hate) and rewriting every script. They beyond cra-cra!
BTW, Minions, Jon, himself, has said when his parents divorced, he sided with his dad, so you have to wonder what his relationship with his mother was like. Kate was not the first woman in his life.
Rosie said...
I know I would lose respect for my helpmate if they couldn't see for themselves what was needed and step up to the plate.
Kate chose him so the blame isn't all on him but what a disappointment.
Kate "chose" him so who he is isn't all on him?
Jon is like a lot of men who think if they do as little as possible, wifey will do it all. She'll go to work, come home, take care of the kids, cook, clean, and hubby can come home from work and play with the kids for a few minutes before sitting himself in front of the tv for the night! That might work fine with a family of 4 - Kate might have actually been able to handle that, but when there are 8 little ones to deal with, there's no time to allow your PARTNER in marriage to be a slacker. How many times on the show did we see Kate telling Jon not to "hide" in the closet - where his computer was - because there was work to be done? How many times did Jon do his best to try to put off cleaning up and getting things done, because HE wanted to play?
Kate had "expectations" that her husband would be a "partner" in their marriage and he'd do his part, and she was wrong about that, but I don't think she was wrong to HAVE that expectation to begin with. Who wants to get married, have kids and then realize that your husband is your oldest child instead of your partner?
I 100% agree with you Micha, and
yes, a lot of men are like that.
I just think Kate must have had a clue before the tups what Jon was about.
I'm sure she thought he would rise to the occasion but she thought wrong.
A lot of times we believe the person we chose have qualities they just don't have. When they don't live up to who we think they are its like they did us wrong when what was wrong was who we chose.
Jon was never anything more then a squirrel, and that was on his best days.
I'm going back and watching the tummy tuck epi. The interviewer asked Jon if he was resentful of Kate and the decision to have more kids. He said no...how can he be resentful of a decision they made together. Kate asked if he was sure and he said yes. She said, "Thank you." It was touching.
They did seem in love during that time, didn't they Francie?
If Jon's so happy to be rid of Kate like the hater's claim, then why does he seem so darn regretful? Why wasn't he thanking TLC for setting him free from big bad Kate? JMO but I think he's hung up on her and wishes they were still together.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/02/jon-gosselin-couples-therapy-girlfriend-liz-jannetta/
Sage, the comments on the above link are very telling. People are realizing that Jon was Kate's 9th child.
Can you imagine? This is what Kate dealt with while the twins were young and sextuplets were babies. Jon's temper tantrums and childish behavior..I would guess she still deals with it.
No wonder the twins don't want to visit their dad.
After seeing Jon's behavior on CT I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell that Jon would get custody of the kids.
The thing is with Jon and Liz there is no adult in that relationship.
Liz wears here hoodie as an escape. Did you all see her pull it over her head when confronted?
They both so overreacted. Jon has a temper tantrum and Liz cusses and says she hates everyone in the house.
Jon will be dumping her when he realizes she is not good for his 'brand'.
Sage, I totally agree. I wouldn't be surprised if Liz was a major part of the reason that the twins no longer want to visit him, too... along with her kids and dogs.
Sage said...
After seeing Jon's behavior on CT I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell that Jon would get custody of the kids.
February 14, 2014 3:30 PM
Even before CT, Jon's behavior, lifestyle, attitude and inability to even contribute to raising his kids financially would have made custody of his children an impossibility.
Jon just went on a tantrum tour for the press, upset that his own children exposed how lacking he is as a parent, and so of course he would blame Kate, lash out at her, make outrageous claims about her "mental stability," and say he wanted "temporary" custody. Even though he says he believes Kate isn't "stable" he STILL can't even say he wants his kids full time?
I don't for a minute believe that Jon actually wants any sort of custody of his kids. That would really cut into his lying around and doing nothing time. What has Jon done since doing those interviews? Has he filed anything with the courts, or does he believe that talking InTouch and E!News equals filing papers with the courts in PA?
CK out Bullyville.
Wonder if BV has more plans for another someone who has bashed Kate and her children for years? One could pray and hope.
Hi Belle, its so good to see you.
Latest gate is CookbookPhotoGate. One of the haters found that one of the photos in Kate's book is a stock photo. Never mind that the photos are credited to another source and Kate did not take the photos or style the photos and food herself. Never matter WHO did what. It's Kate's fault. Why don't these evil people just leave her alone???
Quiltart,
I noticed not too much has been mentioned about Jon on CT and what an immature loser he is.
Sage, the comments on radaronline have been pretty harsh. At BL's they have shifted the focus to their own personal health problems. Very telling, IMHO.
This latest thing about the photos is ridiculous.
I know. Did you ever see such a messed up bunch?
They pick apart everything in Kate's life so they don't have to face the reality of their own.
Seriously? They are going on about the pics in Kate's cookbook and BL is making comparison to Lance Armstrong.
Again, they never cease to amaze.
Quiltart,
Hmm, changing the subjects really fast on a blog is VERY telling. It may come home to roost yet, just saying.:)
Stock photo's are
a norm in business. Ever see how they make a dish for a magazine, you can't even eat it when they are done with it. Silly people who have no idea how the real world works.
They should be paying attention to the lawsuit that BV has filed against their hero instead of dissecting a cookbook that they've already done their best to sabotage!
That lawsuit seems very serious,if those people can cause that kind of damage and fear to bulleyville and his family I can only imagine the damage that they have done to Kate and her career over the years. This has gone way to far, the hate and need for revenge is dangerous and scary.
Last night I found a blog called itsabouttruth.wordpress.com, where they bragged about getting to all of BV's advertisers to stop advertising with him, except one, and they were still working on that one. (Of course, now, the blog has been deleted.) My point is, that I have always said, that this is EXACTLY what they did to Kate. They did whatever they could to keep her from working and bragged about that, too. What evil people! I hope BV gets them all!
Oh my goodness, they are just losing it over this pic thing.
I'm not an aficionado of cookbooks or anything. But, I used to enjoy them. I cleared out a bunch several years ago and only kept my favorites.
I could care less who took the pics or made the food for the pics. (For one thing, Betty Crocker is not a real person whipping up dinners in her kitchen. Lol). Don't tell, but some of my cookbooks don't even have pictures!! You actually have to read the list of ingredients to see if it's something you would like to make. Can you imagine?
The want to blame Kate for anything and everything. The credits in her book list several photographers, a recipe tester and a food stylist. The publisher arranges for the design of the book, not the author. They've already killed the book for her. I wonder who they have already called to "report" her on this latest round. It never seems to end, does it?4
In the reruns of their mind, the haters have forgotten that Jon had a temper.
Jon loses his temper, pouts like a child on CT and "it's all Kate's fault" and "men are just that way."
I've never seen such coddling of a grown man.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 144
I don't understand Jon's upset either. Jon knows he loves his children and he should know there is nothing wrong with deciding not to have anymore after having eight. I don't know why some hack test from a hack web site with a terrible reputation for just being a hook-up spot for cheaters and losers (that's not to say there may be many decent people on the site and healthy relationships, but there's no denying its shady reputation) would upset him. HE knows how he feels about his kids, so why be upset about what someone else says. Maybe it felt like the final straw for him after putting up with Kate insulting him as a father for the past five years. Maybe it just felt like he can't take it anymore.
What I have learned about men is that they take their role as father and husband and provider very seriously and when you insult that they seem to get far more bent out of shape than most women do.
February 16, 2014 at 8:01 AM
You're right! They have completely rewritten Jon's history to match what they have fantasised him to be. Jon was not an innocent in the failure of his marriage. It takes two. Kate put up with a lot from him over 10 years, including him not being able to hold a job.
When has Jon taken his job as provider seriously? laughable and delusional.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 140
Personally, I don't give a shite what the Twitter haters tweet to Kate. It's not my problem and if someone can't discern the difference between what's rigorously and respectfully discussed here and the excrement that's flung on Kate's timeline, it's just not my problem.
Let them play in their sandbox and we'll play in ours ;-)
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That's how I feel about it. There has been this small group of over the top "haters" for years now. I don't think they make us look bad, why would they? That's not what goes on here. Like you said, if someone can't tell the difference between that and a rational conversation, that's really their problem, nor should we really care. The people here are rational and fair by and large, which is why I let the comments through and continue to engage with you. I like this sandbox and don't much care about other sandboxes and what they're up to, never have.
February 16, 2014 at 7:31 AM
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Doesn't she realize that some of the "over the top" haters post on 15mins too? Under different names and toned down posts but they do post there. She can't be that naive.
They really do think highly of themselves, don't they? There are some who post their regularly who are just as vile and hate-filled as the twitter haters. DELUSIONAL!
Be kind, people. You must not realize that poor little Jonny boy was like an orphan in Oliver Twist during his marriage.
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Pants on Fire said... 147
I expect more maturity from Jon, yet, for the duration of his marriage Jon (like his 8 children) was like an orphan in Oliver Twist. Jon's maturation got frozen in time (I believe that he started the marriage out immature to begin with - that's why TCFW selected him). Jon worked day and night for his family, yet without a whiff of physical or emotional affection from the Orphanage Matron, TCFW. Jon got nothing but beat down.
Be kind, people. You must not realize that poor little Jonny boy was like an orphan in Oliver Twist during his marriage.
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Pants on Fire said... 147
I expect more maturity from Jon, yet, for the duration of his marriage Jon (like his 8 children) was like an orphan in Oliver Twist. Jon's maturation got frozen in time (I believe that he started the marriage out immature to begin with - that's why TCFW selected him). Jon worked day and night for his family, yet without a whiff of physical or emotional affection from the Orphanage Matron, TCFW. Jon got nothing but beat down.
You have GOT to be kidding!
Soon they'll compare him to Jesus Christ himself.
Oopsies, BL messed up.
BL wrote:
... HE knows how he feels about his kids, so why be upset about what someone else says. Maybe it felt like the final straw for him after putting up with Kate insulting him as a father for the past five years. Maybe it just felt like he can't take it anymore.
What I have learned about men is that they take their role as father and husband and provider very seriously and when you insult that they seem to get far more bent out of shape than most women do."
February 16, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Someone pointed out that it was the incompatibility result Jon was upset about. He wasn't having a tantrum because the test deemed him to be non-family oriented. So, BL had to switch up her excuse.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 168
I think Jon and Liz were honest about the eleven kids. Liz was very clear that they are both very family oriented and adore their kids but that of course eleven kids is a lot on their plates. It would overwhelm anyone. Kate herself complains about all the responsibility of the kids ALL THE TIME. I'd prefer that as opposed to happy happy joy joy everything is just fine. That's not realistic. And Liz made a HUGE face of disbelief when they said she wasn't family oriented, as in that's total B.S. what are you TALKING about? They got over that ridiculous statement because they knew it was nonsense. Like Whitney being honest that she is tempted (by ICECREAM) they were honest 11 kids is a lot.
I think the reason he reacted to being incompatible is because he knew there was a grain of truth to it, whereas the other stuff he was more confident about so didn't care so much if they wanted to say inaccurate things.
February 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM
So,. which is it?
At first, BL says Jon got bent out of shape (as most men would) because he takes his role as father and provider so seriously. Then, BL changes it to Jon being soooo secure with those roles that he let those inaccuracies slide and only focused on the incompatibility part.
They gobble up that BS BL spoonfeeds to them.
I wonder if any of them have called out the BL on her flip flopping. With all comments being vetted before publishing it is hard to tell.
Getting harder and harder to make excuses for their idol Jon. I wonder if Jon does not read and laugh at them.
So how does the head cheese know how a Father would feel? She mocked her own Father and Mother for taking her to Olive Garden. She is not married, nor have any children, she should save that advice for all the clients that don't get good service from her. I doubt Jon cares what she says at this point, he lost every court case he ever had.
I do hope her sandbox gets dirty! )
Well, BL is at it again. Her convoluted reasoning about Jon's reaction on CT should make her Minions' heads explode with joy. She is blind to reality (and reality TV) for sure.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2014/02/recap-couples-therapy-episode-7-cone.html#comment-form
Since when did TLC paint Jon as the bad guy. They made Kate as the bad guy and Jon the laid back guy. Bl must be getting dizzy the way she spins things. BL, even Jon said he was over the Kate years so don't blame Kate for Jon being a deadbeat. He worked hard that being that on his own.Your worship of him is embarrassing. Your posters must be laughing at you behind your back.
Paula said... 21
Note to sheeple....embarassing your children does n'o make one a bad parent. Smoking does not make one a bad parent. Drinking does not make one a bad parent. Using "bad words" does not make one a bad parent. However, continually for years upon years trying to alienate ones children from their father DOES make one a bad parent.
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Drinking doesn't make someone a bad parent? Yes it does.Jons drinking is clearly out of hand. Swearing like he does can alienate a child from their parent.It embarrasses children when parents swear like he does.
I see Becky is implying that Kate has been drunk when the kids have friends over. Who is your source for that Becky? Hoffman? The man is a known liar. Plus I thought the kids NEVER had friends over. Make up your mind.
Jon is a far more embarrassing parent than Kate could ever be.
Such different standards.
Jon's allowed to smoke and drink. Kate is kicked around for wasting the kids' money on mani/pedis/tanning (even though she has said, she takes the girls and they have mani/pedis).
The kids aren't affected by Jon's drinking and smoking. Kate's children will suffer horribly from Kate's example in her eating habits, running, tanning, fashion choices, etc.
Of course, their biggest hypocrisy is that Jon is allowed to live a public life, bash Kate, talk about his children, and work in the field of his choosing. They want Kate to completely disappear. She can't even do a sweet little family cookbook without being mercilessly attacked.
Oh, and since Jon smokes like a chimney, Kate is now a smoker, too... although no one has ever seen her smoking! Truthers are LIARS!
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Jon smokes like a chimney so now Kate's a smoker too, and they're okay with that? They wouldn't have double standards, would they? Nah....but there must be some way to attack Kate for allegedly doing what they know Jon does. I know! Since they've never seen Kate smoking they must be against the "secrecy" of her "smoking." Secrecy is bad and evil! If Kate smoked on camera and in interviews the way Jon does...then they'd be okay with it, since they're okay with Jon doing it! Oh, wrong, everything Kate does is wrong, even if she's doing exactly what their hero Jon does.
Ah, to think like a hater. :)
You are so right in saying the haters can't make up their minds ( or otherwise keep track of their crazy ramblings). They apply different standards at will, always critical of Kate & always enabling Jon to act so worthless.
Those hypocrites think its totally OK that Jon blew thru his share of the money from the show.
This is what gets me- Apparently Jon got a share from working on the show BUT Kate did not. All her money is the kids money. All the money shes earned since (DWTS CWS & so on) is the kids money. All the money Jons earned since is HIS HIS HIS!
That woman hung around the area when Jon had custody, Jon on his off weeks couldn't party hard enough or travel far enough away from his kids. But according to them, that's just fine that he BLEW thru the kids money while Kate saved for education & hard times to come.
I hope someone Kate like is running their lives for them while they're sitting on the computer or otherwise they must be in a pitiful state, just like Jon is without her.
My, oh my, the BL is good for some laughs today. The woman who runs a blog dedicated to picking apart every move made and every word spoken by Kate is going off because some posters have dared to state that being a smoker is bad role modeling.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 44
Point being, there are literally hundreds of things that parents do that COULD harm their children or COULD result in something bad happening. But to stand here in judgment and say that a divorced mother or father, that a mother or father who are poor, or that a mother or father who smokes is a BAD PARENT, is over the top pearl clutching.
I don't require parents to be perfect. I don't require it of Jon nor of Kate. I think they should do the best they can and that they're not going to do everything perfect, nor is every parent. As long as you do not emotionally or physically abuse your kids, I have no interest or desire in being so God damn hard on people. Compassion. Understanding. Leaving people be to parents their own children without constant judgment.
Haven't parents lost custody of kids because of smoking.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/legally-speaking/2012/feb/21/smokers-losing-child-custody-cases-growing-trend/
BL doesn't require perfection from Kate? Did I read that right?!?!
Excellent point about the money Montana!
Looks like you're right Sadie. Of course if the courts ever had an issue with Jon's smoking I'm sure the minions would spin it that he has to smoke to relieve stress due to something Kate did........blah blah blah.
Sally said... 80
I was one of the people who contacted the Red Cross, totally on my own, about their ad on Cheaterville. They were displeased to put it mildly and asked me to please contact them again if their ads ever showed up on any of those sites again. I don't think the Red Cross representative would ask me to call him if there was anything wrong with what I did.
February 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 83
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I agree. As long as you don't say anything libelous you can contact a company if you want and even do so quite vigorously and passionately. And if you are harassing the company that's really between you and the company, not the person you are contacting them about.
If you are saying libelous things about a company or someone, that could be another matter. However not always! At least for CA lawyers we are forbidden from responding to criticism from clients, even if they say blatantly false things about you. We cannot respond, per our Bar. It's frustrating to hear a client say you never contacted them when you have a stack of two dozen emails back and forth proving otherwise, but that's the way it is. If you have an issue with that you need not apply to the CA bar.
Chablis is playing the innocent on Twitter. She says none of her tweets have ever attacked anyone. GAG me.
Pot meet kettle.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
Haters say this describes US. They need to reread, because it's Them to a T!
It would be interesting to know if Jon has health insurance to cover his habits? So it's ok for Jon and Liz to smoke in a cabin with kids there?
My, oh my, the BL is good for some laughs today. The woman who runs a blog dedicated to picking apart every move made and every word spoken by Kate is going off because some posters have dared to state that being a smoker is bad role modeling. ~Nameless in LA
How dare someone mention Jon's smoking? Don't they know Kate complained about the snow and mentioned Shirley Temple's passing?
I can't believe BL wrote the below, she's spent years ripping Kate apart. I'm surprised her keyboard didn't melt.
"I have no interest or desire in being so God damn hard on people. Compassion. Understanding. Leaving people be to parents their own children without constant judgment."
Is she trying to say that what she's been spewing against Kate for years is not "constant judgment?"
I think this is the point where you have to start feeling numb because it's clear that BL is really living in an alternate universe. What can you really say? No words can do her justice. "Delusional" is just too mild a word. She seems to be the type of person you back away from slowly so that she doesn't really notice you're backing away, and then as soon as you're at the door you turn and run as fast as you can - like in a horror movie. So creepy.
Question? If what Kate has done in the minds of the 15 minions is considered parental alienation, what in the world is what Jon has done by bashing Kate over and over again on TV and in press? Their tin foil antennae must need readjusting, because they have no idea what goes on in Kate's house, do they? It's all in their minds and when their minds are empty, as they often are, they dredge up something that happened eight years ago. Jon gave as good as he got on J&K+8, but they have erased all that in their rewrite of history.
BL is writing yards and yards trying to justify her smashing of Kate and canonizing of St. Jon.
Just an excerpt, cause BL is running on just too long. It shouldn't be that hard to explain should it? ;)
Uhm, Kate has full legal custody. I'm pretty sure things have gone the way she wanted.
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.."The fact that she's whined so much so often to the public suggests to me that she isn't getting what she wants out of the judge about him. Otherwise she would be happy as a clam. She's clearly frustrated and furious about Jon and the freedom he's gotten out of the family law courts to do the sort of things that annoy her."...
Just an FYI Bullyville has posted a very telling tweet about our favorite all knowing attorney.Looks as if Mr.McG hasn't forgotten or forgiven.Let's hope not anyway.Winning!
This is funny. From the blog that reads every tweet she makes and mocks them. NO.SELF.AWARENESS
Paula said... 197
So Milo spends her days and nights tweeting to/about Kate Gosselin and reading this blog. Good lord woman (or whatever you are ) GET.A.LIFE.
So is the birth fetish site still up and going? Maybe one of the dear leaders posters could bring everyone up to date how much money the lawyer has made off it.
Kate is "frustrated and furious" about Jon? lol She doesn't see him, doesn't talk to him, some of the kids see him every other weekend and once a week (according to JON). What's to be "frustrated and furious" about on Kate's end?
Jon did his interviews where he had his little tantrum about not being able to go to the front door of KATE's house - didn't he sound like a little boy whining because Kate could keep him off the property and he no likey - and how he was so worried about the kids and wanting TEMPORARY custody and blah blah blah...and then, NOTHING. He must be so very worried to not do ANYTHING about what he claims to be worried about. lol
When is this going to court to petition for temporary custody going to actually happen? If it's as urgent as Jon likes to claim it is, shouldn't Jon be moving heaven and earth to "save" his kids?
It's the haters who should be "frustrated and furious." Their "hero" is all talk and no action. Jon's actions don't match his words so, what to conclude? It sure does look like he's either exaggerating the "situation" that he claims exists where he feels he should have custody or he's not exaggerating but he doesn't care enough to follow through! Wow, what a "hero!"
Sounds like BL might be one of the Jane Does. There's so much backpeddling she might end up a couple of years younger!
Kate has never done anything that remotely resembles what Jon has done to bash her. If the minions had a brain, they would realize that the only reason she took the twins on TV was to answer the insults that their father made about them to the press.
But they have no brains.
Francie,
LOL, wonder how she would be on a witness stand? Is she going to plea that Jon made her post her hate about Kate and the kids? She has talked about other people's children on her blog also, hmmm, will be interesting. Her posters should expect free lawyer representation if called into court, that's the least she could do.
Merryway, the blogging lunatic is making a fool of herself. She is pathetic!
this is funny
BethWalt77 @ManzillaKilla · 1h
Curious @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 if you had to describe Jon's new girlfriend in one word... What would be the word?
Hailey Glassman @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 · 35m
Temporary.....@ManzillaKilla RT: Curious @hAiLeYgLaSsMaN1 if you had to describe Jon's new girlfriend in one word... What would be the word?
Good grief! Now we are onto diapergate. It never ends, does it!?!
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Somewhere In Time said... 55
Kate tweeted:
A bedtime lesson in diapering their babies..w REAL pampers!
They screeched w delight when I honored their request! pic.twitter.com/5Rbeze7zy1
What a screeching and shrieking family that must be. Ten year olds are just too old to be screeching about diapering a doll. They just are.
February 18, 2014 at 6:05 PM
Love Hailey's snark, too funny! I think that word be for all of Jon's past gf's.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) has left a new comment on the post "Recap: Couples Therapy episode 7, a cone without a...":
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 10h
@Kateplusmy8 Do U have time 2clear up a rumor again? Some R insisting U are a secret smoker...have been 4yrs. Please set them straight!!
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Maybe the answer is not what Milo is hoping for. I also think Jon like most people probably started smoking as a very young adult and often non smokers don't want to be with a smoker. I think given what we know about Kate and her wanting to run a bit on the wild side, she may very well have been a smoker or even still is.
But Milo is missing the point. It's not about that. The reason I brought that up was to say I don't care about Kate smoking any more than I do Jon and that on the list of things these kids will be discussing with a therapist someday, that will probably be at the very bottom.
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How long before they say it was Kate that got Jon hooked on smoking.
She's not concerned about Jon smoking, yet he has money to buy cigs and booze and not pay cs. Real child advocates would look at the financial side of the main issue in any household, imo. It's like she sprinkles fairy dust on the big issues in raising children, and throws the bone for a big chew on things no one who is a parent would give a rats azz about.
I thought BL went on a tangent once because Kate insisted on cooking with that rare, exotic, highfalutin, high priced item called...........wait for it.........it's pretty shocking .......OLIVE OIL!! A real budget crusher! (eyeroll)
I don't believe for one second that BL would let it slide if Kate said she smoked. She'd maybe be able to control herself for one post & then she'd hop on the, "It's okay if the parent that has the kids for less time does it, but not the main parent" train....and the magic fluctuating visitation percentage would somehow be reduced to less than her earlier claim of 50/50 again.........
BTW, the average price of a pack of cigarettes in PA is almost $7.00 and Jon chain smokes them on CT. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent $14,00/day. Geez.....Kate's olive oil habit pales in comparison.
The little girls are 9 and turn 10 in May. The haters deem their playing w/dolls as immature.
They complain the G kids' childhood has been stolen away by evil Kate and TLC, but then BL condemns their doll playing as "regressive."
For child advocates, they sure have a cookie cutter idea of childhood development. I never knew that children had to give up their dolls by age 9.
Nine and 10yo Kids playing with dolls is not "regressive" or "dysfunctional." They grow up fast enough, kids don't need to be pushed out of their childhoods.
So, in BL's mind, Jon's smoking doesn't compare to the wretchedness of Kate buying pampers and teaching the little girls how to diaper their babies. That's such a weird thing to compare... a bad health trait vs. playing w/your children.
BL's analytics are so strange. Look how much she can surmise from a couple of Kate's tweets. BL's power is awesome and her minions bow at her feet.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78
Once in a blue moon, she could write that THEY had pizza for dinner. Not that SHE fed them them
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That is another thing she does is turn everything around so that SHE is doing it and getting credit for it. She can't just say we played with dolls tonight, it has to be all about how she arranged it. She can't just say we had delicious pizza tonight, it has to be about how SHE prepared it and fed it. I don't think this is insignificant at all, I think it's highly indicative of a narcissistic personality disorder.
And this sort of proves my point. In one tweet we see a mother who is looking for all the credit and accolades making the tweet all about her, we see a mother again using bizarre and impersonal language about her children like "honored" their "requests", we see a mother babying children and encouraging regressive behavior and encouraging activities better suited to 5 year olds instead of age-approrpiate interests, we see a mother embarrassing her children by tweeting it to the world so that tomorrow all their friends can laugh at them playing with their babies.
I will take a father smoking outside OUT BACK when his children are three-thousand miles away (can second hand smoke travel that far?) any day over the above dysfunction. That kind of dysfunction is just so far and away from anything Jon has ever done it's not even funny. And that's why I agree with what Millicent said--I rest my case! :)
February 18, 2014 at 7:54 PM
BL really should be looking at her own "dysfunction." When you're whole life is tearing apart every little thing a mom does...what kind of life is that? Is this woman afraid to have a real life? And how many women are there out there like her, living vicariously through Kate, watching her and talking about everything they would do differently? When are they ever going to see that they are wasting so much time watching someone else live and judging!? This nothing life is like their "security blanket." Blanky needs to be put away.
Pressed "Publish" too soon. I really still believe those women could have productive lives if they let go of watching Kate and judging her 24/7. Why is hating Kate their "comfort item" in life? I just wonder why they don't seem to want productive lives and choose to be angry and obsessive.
Merryway,
So BL, a woman that made sure to include a category featuring teenagers giving birth on the fetish site she ran, is now an expert on what is and what is not age appropriate behavior? Uh.....okay....
I pressed "publish" too soon too. Just wanted to say "well said" merryway & Micha.
I have been out of the loop so I need to subscribe to comments so I can figure out what is going on, LOL.
I guess I need to hit that little button that says email follow up comments. Been gone too long.
So Jon only smokes outside when he is thousands of miles away. ROTF, did someone REALLY say that? He smoked as he pi%%ed in his friends driveway and at his cabin, someone needs to catch up.
Thanks, DryIce.
I was wondering is there any news on Jon and his "noble" plans to get "temporary" custody from Kate and all the other "blah" he said? Or was the interview with E! it, and he's done?
I read all the backlash from those interviews, it seems the majority of comments, even from people who don't like Kate at all, still think Jon is full of it, completely incapable and not really interested in taking care of the kids, no matter what he claimed in the interview. Nobody's buying it, so does that mean Jon's given up on trying to sell it?
As far as I can see he only did more damage to his own measly reputation.
Micha, I guess he's stilling saving his $$$. He certainly should have made enough being on CT!
We're do for a new Jon story. Wonder what's next from him.
Jon's new story will be " I'm broke, can't hire a lawyer to get my kids". Wonder who will finally sell him out or WHO he will sell out for a few bucks.
Another day, another gate. Anyone following massage gate? The BL is allowing comments implying that Kate is engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior with her children. That's really crossing the line. I'm not litigious by nature, but I would to see a defamation suit against her. Enough is enough.
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Mel said... 48
No recognition of boundaries there....you're the parent, they're the kid. At the kids' ages, it's hard to establish your authority when needed if they've been giving you back rubs all the time.
It definitely has the eeewww factor. It has a sexual undertone. Not good.
Nameless in LA said...
Another day, another gate. Anyone following massage gate? The BL is allowing comments implying that Kate is engaging in sexually inappropriate behavior with her children. That's really crossing the line. I'm not litigious by nature, but I would to see a defamation suit against her. Enough is enough.
OMG...I was talking to a friend about that tweet today (she does not really follow anything Kate G on her own which makes her interesting to talk to re: Kate and the haters who always attack anything Kate does) and her first guess on what the haters would say about it is what you say they are saying! I didn't even guess THAT, (I thought the haters would be all angry that she has the kids "working" to make her comfortable instead of "relaxing" - poor babies!) but I don't know why. Of course that's where they'd go. They are that sick and twisted.
Not even worth being outraged. Other than saying, "Really? Come on.." what else can you say?
People who see a "sexual undertone" in that tweet, all that does is say a lot about YOU, and what it says about you is definitely "not good." Poor things.
Quiltart said...
Micha, I guess he's stilling saving his $$$. He certainly should have made enough being on CT!
Hmm...I don't think Jon would want to spend any money he makes on something like going to court to allegedly "save" his kids, but isn't there a "lawyer" out there who would be willing to represent Jon for free - for the good of the kids, of course! Someone who has a blog and claims to not be about judging parents...
I thought BL said he had a good lawyer a done his supporters was paying.
Oops ... I am in the car and it is bumpy.
OMG, can't believe BL posted Mel's disgusting post. They're both perverts!
Their minds always go to sex. It's sick and pitiful that they'd go there.They're crossing lines now & it should be nipped in the bud.
Oh, and DWINDLE, how nice of you and your friends to laugh at your elderly patients tattoo's while you bathe them. Have some respect for them.You shouldn't be working with the elderly if you treat them like that.
I started a new post.
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