Pssst, minions.
Uhm,
Jon doesn't pay child support.
Kate is the sole supporter.
Kate has legal custody.
Jon gave up legal rights because he didn't want to support his children.
Oh, and that means:
Jon's child support obligation didn't magically disappear because he was granted 50% physical custody.
Without being required to pay support, Jon gets to keep all of the money he makes trashing his children in the tabloids. Isn't that peachy for him?
Jon has constantly interfered with Kate's income and her ability to earn. He stopped the show so he could do his own thing and filed for custody when Kate was on DWTS. Jon had no trouble with his conscience running to Star Magazine when editor Bill Blankinship was arrested in a sweep investigation for distribution of child pornography. Hey, there was a buck to made! Right Jon?
Even though he was free of child support, Jon chose to be directly involved with a disgusting hate blog. A hate blog which has spent every day for the last four years harassing, bashing, antagonizing and lying about his ex-wife. Jon is full aware of their mission as he has used BL's before when he and Ellen encouraged a boycott of Kate Plus Eight.
Why would Jon convey and lie to BL that his child support went away because his visitation increased? He wanted BL to know he wasn't a deadbeat dad. Did Jon forget to mention that he gave up legal rights?
It's really sad that Jon has driven such a wedge between himself and his children. He has made derogatory comments about them in the Dad's Rountable interview, on Oprah's Where Are They Now, The Wendy Williams Show, and his call-in to TMZ. Oh yes, the In Touch articles (Did I miss any?) And, that brings me to Robert Hoffman's obsessive tirade to destroy Kate. Jon gave up any legal say-so in the lives of his eight children. Again I ask, if Kate if is abusive and her home is a house of horrors, why would Jon do so such a thing? Shouldn't Robert be upset that his dear friend Jon sold out the safety of the children? Robert is freakish and stalker-like in his crusade that Kate is evil like no other. Robert is weirdly bromantic praising the parenting skills of super dad Jon. Yet, Jon handed over all the decision-making to Kate. Jon and Robert's stories just don't add up.
I hate to tell the minions "I toldyaso!" Well, I don't really hate it.
http://radaronline.com/2014/
Realitytvkids.com
Uhm,
Jon doesn't pay child support.
Kate is the sole supporter.
Kate has legal custody.
Jon gave up legal rights because he didn't want to support his children.
Oh, and that means:
Jon's child support obligation didn't magically disappear because he was granted 50% physical custody.
Without being required to pay support, Jon gets to keep all of the money he makes trashing his children in the tabloids. Isn't that peachy for him?
Jon has constantly interfered with Kate's income and her ability to earn. He stopped the show so he could do his own thing and filed for custody when Kate was on DWTS. Jon had no trouble with his conscience running to Star Magazine when editor Bill Blankinship was arrested in a sweep investigation for distribution of child pornography. Hey, there was a buck to made! Right Jon?
Even though he was free of child support, Jon chose to be directly involved with a disgusting hate blog. A hate blog which has spent every day for the last four years harassing, bashing, antagonizing and lying about his ex-wife. Jon is full aware of their mission as he has used BL's before when he and Ellen encouraged a boycott of Kate Plus Eight.
Why would Jon convey and lie to BL that his child support went away because his visitation increased? He wanted BL to know he wasn't a deadbeat dad. Did Jon forget to mention that he gave up legal rights?
It's really sad that Jon has driven such a wedge between himself and his children. He has made derogatory comments about them in the Dad's Rountable interview, on Oprah's Where Are They Now, The Wendy Williams Show, and his call-in to TMZ. Oh yes, the In Touch articles (Did I miss any?) And, that brings me to Robert Hoffman's obsessive tirade to destroy Kate. Jon gave up any legal say-so in the lives of his eight children. Again I ask, if Kate if is abusive and her home is a house of horrors, why would Jon do so such a thing? Shouldn't Robert be upset that his dear friend Jon sold out the safety of the children? Robert is freakish and stalker-like in his crusade that Kate is evil like no other. Robert is weirdly bromantic praising the parenting skills of super dad Jon. Yet, Jon handed over all the decision-making to Kate. Jon and Robert's stories just don't add up.
I hate to tell the minions "I toldyaso!" Well, I don't really hate it.
http://radaronline.com/2014/
Realitytvkids.com
Kate, Cara, and Mady Gosselin on The View
Also, know as 'parental alienation' day on the BL's. ;)
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Micha has left a new comment on the post "Jon and Liz":
Of course they blame Kate. I strongly doubt that the main reason the girls aren't into going to Jon's or seeing Jon has anything to do with child support. The girls talked about Jon's behavior in the People article and they were old enough to see and be disgusted by his behavior.
I will never forget Jon driving with a tabloid tv show to the bus stop on the twins birthday, and Cara (sounding sweetly hopeful) asking Jon if Kate was home, while surrounded by paparazzi taking their pictures. And then when they were home I remember Jon going out and walking to the fence so that he could talk with the paps while the girls were inside celebrating their birthday. Even the paps asked Jon what he was DOING out there! When the paparazzi has to tell you to go back inside to be with your kids on their birthday, that's pretty bad. The twins saw it all from Jon way back then, and that was 4 years ago. I guess that is Kate's fault too. lol
Jon alienated his girls a long time ago, and he did it all on his own, just by being himself.
I think a lot of people on Radar have severe mommy issues.
Awesome post Merryway! How will she spin this article?
Micha I remember that, they had a live stream set up at the house waiting for Jon's arrival. It was taken down but what a horrible thing to do to your children! This was in October, not long before Jon stopped filming claiming he didn't want the divorce filmed. Anyone that still believes that LIE is stupid.
I'm not sure that using the "Article" on Radar for your post is the best choice. Ask yourself, why are these "stories" only reported on Radar? If it were truly reliable, TMZ would have the article posted. The difference is that TMZ checks it's facts before wildly posting stuff.
GW, what are you talking about? Live stream? You "remember"? From 4 years ago? Source?
Kate & Jon should be ashamed for putting their kids in any situation that requires they "confirm" things. That People article is as contrived as the Today interview was supposed to be (yet it proved to be another bad choice by one of the parents).
Love Mady's sense of humor...when asked about her 6 younger sibs..she stated they ruined her silent drama. LOl funny girl!
The twins did well on the view.
It will be interesting to see how Jon responds to this article.
Simon, didn't use the article from ROL for the post. It is just a link at the bottom.
You seem to have missed the screen shot of Jon being a hate Kate blog source but then I understand that because it wasn't on TMZ.
They really are such adorable girls. Mady's response to Jenny McCarthy's question regarding how their parent's divorce affected her was very mature and insightful. What a neat kid she is.
"You ruined my dramatic silence" I just love Mady. lol.
Barbara Walters asked the girls if they see their dad. Mady looked at Kate and hmmmm and Barbara said I think I have my answer.
I'm not home. Hopefully they show a clip online.
How come these arguments of BL's never apply to Jon?
Whatever is going on with Jon and the children is always irrelevant. Anything Kate says is always inappropriate. Whatever Jon says is always fine and dandy, even when he's trashing his children.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
Let's assume for argument's sake the twins ARE estranged from Jon. Even though despite Kate's alienation we know that's not true due to the numerous sightings and photos of them with Jon. Why is it so important to her the public knows this? Why is it the public's business??
If they were really in such a place that they were estranged from their father, a loving mother would deal with it in therapy, not on national TV.
It's kind of irrelevant what is going on with Jon, either way it's not appropriate to talk about in public.
January 20, 2014 at 8:59 AM
So does this mean BL agrees that the G8 are being well taken care of...
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 4
They didn't necessarily tell the officer (or master or judge whoever) that it was in exchange for anything. They could just agree on it. That's how it went down with us in PA. I did agree to a slightly lower amount than that calculated to give him a break.
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Oh I believe you but the judge still had to make a best interest finding. So if you agreed on some number that wasn't in the child's best interest the judge won't approve it. IF the judge gets a whiff there is some kind of back door shady exchange going on, he wouldn't approve it.
The bottom line whatever the situation for the Gosselins, the judge was obviously comfortable with making this finding whether the parties agreed or disagreed with it. Agreement is actually rather irrelevant only so far as it affects whether someone is going to fight it. The concern of the judge is that the children are secure and being provided for, and if that is being done, then best interest is satisfied.
The last paragraph pretty much somes up that the Judge agrees the gosselin's "best interest is being satisfied" with Kate having complete say. Thanks Becks
OMG, I just can't believe she's a real attorney.
Of course the judge had to agree to it. The motion was presented and whoever the magistrate/judge had faith that Kate would support all eight children on her own. Kate is not the first spouse to let their ex off the hook. It may not be the norm, but it happens.
BL acts as if she is from another planet. The simplest things must be so hard for her to understand. But, really it's that forced stupidity. BL has to keep her hate blog going and works the hardest at making the unbelievable sound plausible.
It has to be stunning to Admin to realize that her source, Jon, was lying to her. Just as Hoffman lied to her.
She may be a lawyer but that girl has no common sense and is a poor judge of character.
I am so happy that The View interview went so well. The twins are so cute & fun. Good for them !
GeeWhiz, I do remember that live stream from outside of the house. It was TMZ or ET that did it, iirc. I remember thinking, 'what are they hoping to capture "live" to air as it happens?' Jon will sell the "I stopped the show for the kids" lie forever. Meanwhile it's well documented that he didn't think the show was "exploiting" the kids while he was still welcome on the show, it was just when they decided to change the name of the show that the "stay out, TLC" came up. Remember that summer while reporters were asking him about whether the show "exploited" the kids Jon told reporters absolutely not and told them to look up the word "exploitation" - because there's no way his kids were being exploited. I remember seeing it on probably all of the tabloid shows at that time, coming right out of Jon's mouth.
I meant to add that Ann is absolutely correct. It is most def parental alienation day over at BL's.
The girls were adorable on The View. They did great! So, do you think the media is going to talk about their perfectly lovely interview or are they going to ignore how great the girls were, since they did so well talking to all those women in front of a live audience?
Last Thursday almost every single tabloid entertainment show had a story about Kate and the girls on the Today show, and Jon called into TMZ to talk about wanting to "rescue" the girls. He also revealed that he texted them. And that was on Academy Award nomination day! Will they do a follow up and talk about how charming and lovely the girls were? And will they mention the "reaction" to that question about Jon? Will Jon be calling in to discuss that non answer that Mady gave and what Barbara concluded afterwards?
Micha,
TMZ will say nothing because ROL had the story first about Jon not paying c/s and not seeing the twins.
I wanted to say to Simon that a few years ago I gave a story to ROL. Before they would report it they ran it past their legal dept and verified what I gave them before they published it.
How could anyone forget the live ET feed, starting with the Birthday cake (the wrong spelling of one of the girls name...if I recall). It was hideous.
I think that the girls did well on The View. They are such beautiful girls. Kate also did well.
Happy MLK Day!
I love the argument that Jon couldn't have given up the right to have a say in filming because he SAID he would fight to keep them off TV. Surely she can't be stupid enough to believe that the world is full of people who say one thing and do another. Wait until she figures out that her clients don't always tell the truth either. She will have a breakdown.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 2
Why would Jon give up whatever to let them film then go around saying very clearly, as recently as a few days ago on Wendy Williams, he would fight any attempts by Kate to garner another reality show for the children? To massive applause I might add.
Sheep when coming up with a good deflection, at should at least make some sense.
How can the minions even write this crap.
MickeyMcKean has left a new comment on the post "Kate and the twins on The View":
Re ROL Article ~
Keeping in mind that if Kate's lips are moving she must be lying ... I don't believe the ROL article at all. I believe the twins do see their dad and that the child support was eliminated for another reason(s).
In fact it is my belief that the reason Jon no longer pays any child support is because he had to prove to the court that he has to provide all clothing for his children during his custody times.
Someone said yesterday on here that the 15 minions never say anything bad about the kids...here is one from this morning.
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Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Kate and the twins on The View":
It's very sad to see Mady following in Kate's lying footsteps.
The minions will throw the kids under the bus in a minute to protect Jon.
Jon also said "very clearly a few days ago" that he has no say about what the kids do on tv. Sure, he can try to go to court and fight Kate and the court can say, what are you doing here, you gave up your right to have a say in what the kids do.
Jon loves the haters. He loves their gullibility more than anything - it's what keeps him going.
It seems when the younger kids are visiting their dad Colin always stays home with Kate and the twins. As time goes on I bet more will be staying home.
Thanks to Merryway for writing this great post.
Great article Merry. Micha -you always hit the nail on the head.
MickyMcKean said on the site realitytvkids.....In fact it is my belief that the reason Jon no longer pays any child support is because he had to prove to the court that he has to provide all clothing for his children during his custody times.
Wow take note divorced parents. All you have to do is buy some clothes & they'll waive your child support obligation! (eyeroll). What planet are these people from?
Did I hear someone on The View slip up and say the Gosselins were coming back to TV soon?
Do any of you have one of those magic analyzers that could get us the minute mark?
From what I've been reading on BL & Twitter, Mady is the bad child again. Cara does all the work and Mady is like her mom.
When I was a kid, my older sisters thought I was a pest. That's the way it goes in big families. It's nothing to call CPS about.
Sage said...
Someone said yesterday on here that the 15 minions never say anything bad about the kids...here is one from this morning.
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She said that? She herself was bashing them. And let's not forget PatK..she led the charge. If admin didn't agree with her comment she wouldn't have let it through. We can find DOZENS of of posts bashing the twins. Admin will probably delete them now.
Great post, Merryway!!
Great job, Merry!
The twins did a great job, today, as did Kate. They are extremely bright and poised young ladies.
Mickey McMean's comment makes one wonder how many sets of clothing one kid needs for four nights and one dinner a month. If that's all it takes to get out of CS, deadbeat dads are going to be flocking to their nearest courthouse. What a stupid thing to say!
I love $2 dollar lawyers that feed the public crap. If she really does have a case load, she is full of chit, as working lawyers don't have a hate blog on the internet.
She has no idea about custody, if your children are with you on school days, they are your responsibility. Geesh, parents know this, and she call herself a LAWYER!! ROTF.
I see Polly's chicken's have shown up at BL's. I see at least 3 former posters, guess Polly finally gave up on her fake blog.
Sorry, buying clothes does not get you out of cs. Maybe before they post they should read the law in the state concerning this issue. Jon was going to jail for back taxes and cs. I think Kate did him a favor, but from the looks of things now, the state should have put him in jail. Kate messed this up for the kids, they will see many sold articles about them, unless she gets the court involved again.
There is another ROL article and I put the link on the main post.
Can you imagine the rabid frothing at the mouth and attacks on Kate and possibly the kids if Jon was sentenced to jail for not paying child support?
I don't blame Kate for helping the deadbeat out of that mess. It's not like he is the one who would suffer the most severe consequences of his actions.
If some creepers stalk around the house on a normal day, you can guess that she might have felt she and the kids would have been in real danger if Jon went to jail. So yet again, either way, Jon "wins"...
Only a degenerate, deadbeat loser would chose to give up paying child support and agree to settle for mere visitation, to save his own butt.
Jon goes on every TV interview saying how he spends $400 bucks for a weekend of groceries, from the looks of him, he seems to be stuffing himself, not the kids. 2 days of play clothes would be equal to 4 loads of laundry every month. The kids might eat with him on Tuesday night, but they go home to Kate. Sorry, but no way does it cost that much for 12 meals a month and he must be feeding Liz and her kids.
Sure hope the tax man is keeping his eye on Jon! Jon owns nothing, he can not deduct any family living as Kate has sole custody, so it would be all income from the sold stories.
The trashing of the twins continues at the BL's. Sassy, bratty, mean, greedy, entitled...the list of adjectives goes on and on. It's certainly a new take on "child advocacy." And all the nastiness put through by the greatest advocate of them all, the birth fetish site queen.
Nameless, I noticed that too. They swing back and forth depending on how the twins are affecting Jon.
For the life of me I cannot understand their adoration of Jon.
The 15 minions are one messed up group of people. They are always talking about the narcissists in their lives. Methinks the problem is them and not those in their lives.
Someone feathers and Jon's fan club president are having to own up to the facts about Jon. Boo hoo, find a new idol, the truth is out and yes 13 year olds do know about what their parents do, get a grip, your nasty to each other is upon deaf ears. Jon can't make a buck with Hoffie, so he had to really sell his kids out for a buck.
Parents who are divorced speak to their kids on issues, if you don't they will hear it from their friends. The haters wanted the girls to never tell anything about what really happened, sorry, they burst your bubble. LOL.
Some of those girls on her birth fetish site were probably the same age as the twins, ewww, think about that. Wish someone would do a story about her weirdness on the internet.
Well this must have been cringe worthy for wendy Williams audience. Maybe this is why she thinks Jon is great.
http://www.gossipcop.com/wendy-williams-crying-video-son-kevin-hates-her/
Sage, their love of Jon is in direct proportion to their hatred for Kate. That's the only explanation I have for it. There's no complexity in their world. Kate Bad. Jon Good. The End.
The Bl herself is getting in on the Mady-bashing game. I won't paste her comment because it is so mean. What the hell is wrong with these women? Set up a private chat area if you must talk negatively about the kids, but don't do it on a public blog that they can access. It's cruel.
Wonder why Jon hasn't called TMZ to dispute the ROL article...hmmmm
Looks to me like some of the media outlets owe the twins a big apology. Rob, ROL, Entertainment Tonight and Wendy for starters.
Fred, take a break, your coming undone.
Quotes from Jon on "Inside Edition," when asked about the twins.
"Mady and Cara don't go to my house that much."
Jon when asked when he sees the twins.
"Um, I see them when I do custody drop off, really. Kate's been isolating me from them, so I just really haven't had an opportunity to spend time with them."
Sure, Jon, it's Kate who's "isolating" you from them, it's not their choice. Kate doesn't "isolate" the other 5 (6?) who go to see you...just the twins, it's all Kate's doing. Right, it's not YOU and your life that has kept them away. But for some reason Kate's only interested in keeping 2-3 of the 8 away from you. She's throwing you a bone by not "isolating you" from all the kids. Yeah. Sure. Right.
Jon and his twisting of the truth to make himself look weak and pathetic....And the haters eat it up, don't they? I guess Jon prefers looking weak and pathetic to admitting that his girls choose not to see him because of him! Wahhhh, Jon. Yes, we see it. You're weak and powerless and your "mean ex-wife" is "isolating" you from some of your kids and you can't do anything about it but look pathetic on tv and blame "big bad Kate."
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wonder why the BL is not angry that Jon lied to her about going back to court and getting 50/50 custody. When the reality was he went to court to give up joint legal custody in return for not paying child support and part of the kids do not even see him.
Jon is such a liar.
I can't imagine that the twins find staying in a little house with their six younger sibs, three OTHER children, two pit bulls and their dad's current girlfriend is very much fun.
The Haters are so simple minded and quite pathetic, not to mention down right mean spirited.
They are just UGLY people. Enuf said.
All of the sudden, BL thinks the judge in charge of J&K's case is capable.
When it comes to the issues of filming and custody, BL excuses were that Kate had the "momentum" of the court and that PA courts favor the mom.
Why doesn't BL take her own advice? The judge has decided that Kate has legal custody. Kate makes call on when and if the kids film.
BL as you say, "Go ask the judge if you have an issue with it. The end."
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 182
Instead of whining how Jon doesn't pay CS, I think the sheep need to ask the judge why he made that ruling. Are they saying the judge is dumb?
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Exactly. I'm sure the judge is well aware of how to calculate a child support payment. Even if that calculation comes up zero. I am sure he is well aware of what eight children need financially, and knows whether or not both parents are providing that without an official payment in place.
Go ask the judge if you have an issue with it. The end.
January 20, 2014 at 5:24 PM
Sage,
The reason the BL won't admit anything is because she has lied to her posters for years. Jon fed her false info and she ran with it, she looks like a fool that has been used. Gotta love it! :)
Please someone tell me that this person is joking. Please. My faith in humanity is at an all-time low.
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Jon'sWinning said... 4
I agree with GosselinStreetbookTeam let's send Robert some cash. I am cancelling my internet for the next month and I am sending him the cash I would have spent on it. I encourage everyone to do the same.
What in God's name does this person think that Jon is winning? Talk about burying their heads in the sand. I'm sure that 14.95 she sends RH is going to tip the scales in Jon's favor. Delusional much?
What in God's name does this person think that Jon is winning? Talk about burying their heads in the sand. I'm sure that 14.95 she sends RH is going to tip the scales in Jon's favor. Delusional much?
Nameless..LMAO they are kinda dense there aren't they?
So the hate blog is going to send Hoff money now? OMG, tell me someone isn't that stupid in life? What for? Failed book? Groceries? Medical bills?
What Jon is trying to tell everyone is that he lied to all of them and they aren't smart enough to figure it out. How sad that their reality has really gone from them now.
I think they should just cancel their internet for good...get off the grid for good!
Jon's PR team is calling out ROL and say they lie? What are they going to say about Jon selling stories to ROL? OMG, they represent the biggest loser who has sold more stories in the last 2 weeks than any other D-listed deadbeat Dad.
Yes Yes Jon is winning.
He's got a lovely chateau in the country side. He is very concerned about the planet and cancels his electricity for a few months every winter.
He's got a lovely girl friend who is the very persona of refinement and class.
He has some of the most intelligent people on the universe fighting for his cause on twitter.
And last but not least, he has one of the finest lawyers in california, if not the country, who is a champion for his cause.
So yes you jealous sheeple. Jon is INDEED winning.
$14.95 is what most pay for the internet and they have to cancel their internet for a month to send to Hoff? Someone needs deep therapy.
I wonder how a poster can rant on Kate on a TL, foster parenting love with your ex, blah, blah, blah. Wonder what they would say if their hubs walked out on them with 8 kids to take care of without any support and spent thousands on other women. You can bet the bitter betty would be spouting a different tune. Wonder why they don't all send some funds to Jon to support his kids?
If the minions send RH cash, then he's making money off of the kids...using minion logic.
Yes haters, please send Robert some money. He has no #%?*& clue & needs to buy one. Goodness......
I think I am going to go insane just reading the comments on 15 mins. The conspiracy theories they come up with I just unbelievable.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 20
I think I'm the only one here who had a normal childhood. I loved my parents and family then, I love them now, and we're very close. But what so many of you have bravely shared has really helped me understand this mess.
She loved them until they took her to Olive Garden and she found out she didn't have a trust fund.
BL needs to accept that Jon is liar (just like her). As Micha pointed out above, Jon admitted to Inside Edition he hasn't had visitation w/Cara and Mady.
It's so convenient that BL always remembers a tweet or sighting, but she doesn't produce them. If BL's talking about the worker from a gaming place helping the kids bowl (something like that), the person never said "8" kids.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 49
He just said not a few moths ago he and the twins have special sort of "date nights" together and do things just the three of them. What happened to those, has Kate taken even THAT from these poor kids? What a parental alienator of the worst kind!
And, someone DID see Jon with all eight of him over xmas, they were very clear it was all eight, so I question whether Jon may be exaggerating for maximum effect, upset as he is.
January 20, 2014 at 7:57 PM
LOL at Jon's Winning, that's funny.
Canceling a service so that you can send Hoff money? That's sad in so many ways.
Is Jon winning? Let's see. No responsibilities (even though he's a 36 year old man with 8 kids - that should be a responsibility). Spends his time maligning the woman he's been divorced from for years even though she's the reason he has no responsibilities. Depending on who he's talking to he either sounds like a pathetic put upon loser or a bitter angry loser who blames his ex for anything that's not going well in his life (I can't get a job in IT because of Kate but I love the job I do, yay! My daughters don't see me because of Kate, not because of me. I'm just an "ordinary" guy.)
When did the definition of winning in life become:
1. not doing anything or being anything.
2. being bitter and blaming your ex for everything you are or will be
3. biting the hand of the woman who supports your kids so you don't have to?
Hoffman is making money off the kids for sure. I think they've been sending him money for a long time. He's never thanked them for backing him during this whole thing. When BV came into the picture, he fled and stopped tweeting. Both him and wifey.He never stood up for them. He's using them and laughing at them. He's a Con man.
Oh good grief, now we have a hostage analogy. Yes, Layla, I'm sure your take on the situation is spot on. Did you come up with this brilliant thesis while counting the number of leftover People Magazines in EACH checkout aisle of the store, as you bragged about doing yesterday?
Layla, might I suggest you find a hobby and/or the nearest licensed mental health professional?
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Layla said... 93
My take on M&C not seeing Jon..
I think it's like a hostage situation. Someone (TFW) has taken hostages and a couple of the hostages (M+C) say, "Let the others go. We'll stay with you but let them go". Hostage-taker releases all but the ones who offered to say. Remaining hostages (M&C) placate TFW and try to keep her clam so she doesn't lose it and hurt someone.
She's out of her mind!
And of course another loon comes along and agrees with cray-cray Layla.
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Mel said... 97
Layla said... 93 <----- I think you've got it.
That scenario makes the most sense out of all of this...
LOL really? Does Mady seem like the type who would do anything she didn't want to do, especially for the siblings that she finds so "annoying?" Oh, I bet that's an act, too, right? Mady doesn't really find her siblings annoying at all, and the YEARS she spend on tv saying that she did were just a cover so that she could sacrifice herself for them every other weekend and once a week at dinner time! Mady the martyr. Yeah, that's very likely. lol
Ah, haters are so silly.
We all know the BL can't add, so seeing a post about HOW many kids were with Jon would not soak in. No one ever said all 8 kids were there, just that the G's kids were bowling. I have my doubts that Jon see's the girls on Tues night now. I would be ashamed to have anyone see me with him if he was my Father. Can you imagine what the boys will think in a couple of years of Jon jerking off on a TV show for money?
As far as Andy Cohen saying anything about Kate, he can clean up Bravo first. He has wh$$ed out more women than any TV show on today. Most has either gone bankrupt, fraud, divorce, someone killed himself over the show, drunks, etc. Let's all clap for Andy! What a creep.
I usually like Andy, but I thought last night's comments were totally out of line.
The twins are probably in 8th grade. I would imagine that they have lots of homework that would also prohibit them from dining with Dad on a school night.
So where are all these "numerous" photos of Jon and the kids. I think I've seen maybe one in the last year.
If I read it right, Andy has been demoted at bravo, maybe he is just hanging on for air time, who knows. He has no business talking about Kate, look at the mess of all the women on Bravo, and most of them filmed with their KIDS. I also wonder if Bravo will get dragged in to the federal lawsuit coming up with someone from Jersey who appears on their network. Some of those women kids have been into drugs, jail, rehab, etc. Maybe he should talk about what appears on Bravo and their families and leave others alone. Just calling him out for his comments.
The thing is when And and Chelsea snark on people like Kate, that's all they do. They don't go and hound her, watch her every move and post at hate blogs. It's their jobs.They may not like her in RL, but they don't obsess about her. They have a real life.
I didn't see/hear what Andy or Chelsea said about Kate. Funny how people are jumping on Kate for a couple of interviews - which were clearly done in response to Jon saying the kids had issues with manners and morals and blah blah blah, but nobody seems to be questioning Jon's ongoing disparaging comments about the kids and Kate. I think I've seen one article calling Jon out on the recent InTouch article where he says things like the kids can't even get a snack without asking Kate and etc. What a great parent Jon is to talk about how terribly the kids are treated - allegedly - yet I'm not seeing him rushing to file for custody so that he can have the privilege of raising his children full time to save them from the supposed misery they are living in. He is their father, if he's concerned, why doesn't he do more than just sell stories about how mean Kate is to them? He knows he can petition the courts for custody of his own children, doesn't he? Sure he does, he just doesn't want custody of his children, even though he claims their life with their mom is so miserable. Nice dad, that Jon.
And nobody is calling him on it, no, because they're too busy talking about Kate and how mean she was to try to get her daughters to talk on the talk show after they (I'm sure shockingly to Kate) suddenly froze. Jon must spend a great amount of time giggling over the irony of it all.
I think it's interesting that one of Andy's BFFs, Kathy Griffin, took the time to chat with Kate and said she really liked her. If I remember right she made the comment that they had so much fun she wanted to meet up with her again.
BL is using her source again. I wonder if it's the same one who punked her that Kate's attorney couldn't find the courthouse.
Uhm, BL, your sources suck.
According to this one, Kate is contempt of court for something or other and Jon is ready to nail her for it.
Lol, can you believe how BL talks about the importance of privacy in family court while she is leaking information?
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I think if Jon were doing anything involving a court and a judge, we'd be hearing about it. Wouldn't we? Someone would have discovered the motion(s).
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We did hear about it. I just told you my reliable source told me Kate's in numerous violations and if I wasn't clear Jon does intend to take these complaints to the judge but court dates don't happen overnight. If he were wise, he's contacted his attorney and having her prepare a full contempt motion detailing every violation that has occurred since he was last in court. That takes time.
In any case, we actually won't hear about it in any other way but people leaking it. There is no way to post documents from it other than general court dockets which don't tell us much. Their family law case was officially sealed ages ago, nothing has been public since. The briefs WE saw were about Jon's lawsuit with TLC, that was DIFFERENT. We never saw a single brief dealing with the divorce itself since it's been sealed.
Family law cases are often confidential for the sake of the children's protection and best interest, especially for high profile families, as they should be.
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Micha, society is always so hard on the mom.
Is this the same reliable source who told her Jon had 50/50 custody and that was why he wasn't paying child support?
I wonder if BL's source is Angela, Jon is not going to take Kate to court. If he would petition for anything now, cs would be reinstated, his share of the kids bills, etc. For some reason the documents are sealed, I wouldn't call them a high profile couple, just someone who did reality TV. The Jersey case was posted all over the internet with all the charges.
The haters seem to forget, the twins are young girls, they have seen their Father with 7-8 women in the last 5 years, vacationing and smoking pot in Paris, ripping off women for a place to stay, false police reports filed, charges filed for back cs and taxes, and now jerking off on a TV show for starters, and they ask why the girls would have a problem with him? OMG, if their husbands did this and it was posted all over the news, they would hide in shame. Would they want their kids to have to go through all of this in a few short years. They have no logic, bitter betty's with nothing else to do. Some of them have no kids at home, some have only children, they really should get a job or volunteer to maybe see what reality is all about.
MKS tweeted Jon may be doing future shows. OMG, they represent a creep who does the nasty on a TV show. What kid of PR firm are they? Are they into to nasty stuff? Just asking.
I used to be an Andy fan...until he bashed the kids that performed at the Oscars.
He is just another vulture.
Ha, Merryway, I too was entertained by the BL waxing poetic about the importance of confidentiality while leaking information. I guess her pathetic desire to be the big important insider trumps her ethical obligation as an attorney. I'm guessing that she's not supposed to be talking about sealed court records on the Internet.
That is so true...the BL is pathetic.
Family law cases are often confidential for the sake of the children's protection and best interest, especially for high profile families, as they should be.
Oh, often confidential. I suppose any family court judge would strongly frown upon and even strongly chastise Jon for going to the media and disparaging Kate and her alleged parenting choices. If you know what the word "confidential" means then what Jon's been doing over and over again would be a big NO NO! It certainly wouldn't be good for any case Jon was supposedly trying to make in a COURT to see that he's done interview after interview disparaging Kate, and yet dear deluded BL seems absolutely certain and giddy at the prospect that what her alleged source says is true. Even mediocre lawyers (mediocre, oh what an insulting word) would know that if Jon is going to go to court then his ongoing public bashing of Kate is a not going to work in his favor in any way shape or form. The only court that Jon is going to is the "court of public opinion" to bash Kate because the only consequences there involve hurting his kids and Kate, and it certainly doesn't look like he gives a damn about hurting any of them as long as he can get back at Kate, since he seems to blame her for every little problem in his life.
I suspect BL got her "law degree" from a cracker jack box. Aw...and I bet she was hoping for a diamond ring. lol
Looks like someone is reading here, "Family Law" cases are usually not sealed, maybe if you have tens of millions of dollars like true actors in Hollywood. Her diamond in the rough showed his true colors all over the media this past week, and he still won't give her 10 seconds of his time. She acts like Jon will run to her if she keeps defending him. I wish he would go live with her, he would have new stories to sell. Poor thing, some people will always be alone and maybe the Olive Garden will be the finest place they will ever dine in life.
I find it unforgivably cruel that some of the haters are tweeting the phone number for the Berks County Pet Rescue and encouraging people to call about Shoka.
They use the excuse that they're animal lovers which is far from the truth. If someone from that area saw a stray or neglected animal they're going to rely on a directory of some sort to find the number, not a tweet & those tweeting that number know it.
99% of the people reading that tweet aren't even from that area. Now it opens up the pet rescue to receive all kinds of prank calls which is the last thing they need. My oldest & his girlfriend volunteer at a shelter several times a week -funding & resources are limited -which I'm sure is the norm. The last thing the Berks County Pet Rescue needs is attention & time taken away from the animals that rely on them for care because some nutjobs want to stick it to Kate.
BL needs to pay attention to Jon 's interviews. Because of Jon's big mouth we know Kate has legal custody & he only has visitation,
I agree, DryIce. The way Kate's house is positioned, no one can see her yard. To report her for animal abuse is criminal. As ALWAYS, they have NO IDEA what goes on in Kate's house.
It was because of Jon's big mouth that Kate had to defend the reputation of her children.
The person who is giving out the Berks County pet Rescue phone number is an uber Robert lover. She's the same one who was on 15mins asking people to donate money to Robert. I think she's in love with him.
This is just too much:
http://gossipdavid.com/2014/01/22/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-kids-custody-fight/1602147_10152594081058902_478882319_o/
Oh my Quiltart -that is too much.
Love how Jon said he's going to sue her as soon as he gets the money. Where did the money he made off of Couples Therapy go? Did he get paid by InTouch? If so, why not use that money? Excuse my language - but did he piss it all away -literally? Jon can't even take care of himself let alone 6 children.
Jon will NEVER have custody of his kids no matter who hollers the loudest on the internet. What a waste of time for anyone to ever even say or think that it will happen. Jon sold out everyone who ever tried to help him, Hoff should write the book on Jon.
Hoff is probably the source of the articles in InTouch...
Yeah, sure, Jon wants custody of the sextuplets. I'd like to see Kate give it to him - just give him the kids without any fight, see how long he'd last. Without child support, of course, since Kate's not getting cs from Jon and is raising all 8 of them. She'll get them every other weekend and once a week for dinner, and since she'll buy their food on those days and they'll have the clothes that she bought them on those days so she won't have to pay child support. That's Jon's deal, right - according to him. Should work in reverse, too.
But why just the 6, doesn't he love his twins too? He only wants to "save" the 6, not the older girls from Kate's alleged meanness? Or does he think that they don't love him, so that means he has no responsibility for them anymore?
Ah, I'd just like to see Kate call Jon on his crap, but she cares too much about her children and their well being to let her kids be with Jon full time. I don't know how she can stand to have them with Jon even on the few days that he gets them.
Oh yeah, that'll happen "when" Jon gets some money. Lol He was broke rolling off Morgan's couch the last time he pulled this stunt. Yes, Dry, why not use the money from his latest show?
He is such a jerk. How often does he think the court is going to revisit custody? He just wanted more media attention.
Poor Kate. I bet when she let him off the hook for child support she thought Jon would quit harassing her.
Everybody keeps jumping on the so called "nasty" or "beating off" that Jon was doing. I must have missed that. I think Liz accused him of doing it but he denied it. Why run with something unless it's fact? It's the same as ALL the arm chair Lawyers who blast the 15min Admin and those same people act as if THEY know the law.
Kate is no saint, so why act like she poops roses and they smell like Chanel 5? Jon & Kate have both done things that stink. Those kids MIGHT be a little messed up and to try and act as if they are NORMAL is like holding your head in the sand. If they are never around other kids and only have each other, thats a very small world for kids to learn about Social skills and bonding with people. They probably don't trust people because their parents have shown them that people will use you.
As far as the 15 Min Admin, who gives $.02 about her "other" web sites? That's her business and I'm guessing she hasn't broke any laws. Everyone is free to do as they please, including submitting videos, etc. Why call it a Fetish site? That just makes it easier to vilify her. I would say people here blast her because she isn't a Kate fan. Does that make you feel any better?
I'm so tired of reading people say the kids are blasted or picked on at that site. The majority of the comments are about Kate. Yes, there a few that say things that are not nice. But to say they are all blasting the kids is the same as running around saying the sky is falling (and you just look silly doing it).
Simon, YOU are "running with something" that isn't necessarily a "fact" when you seem to automatically believe that the kids "are never around other kids and only have each other." They go to school, and there are other kids there. So, "never" is 100% the wrong word. What makes you think they don't do school activities and socialize with their peers - is it because Jon said they don't? Jon only sees them once a week and every other weekend. Do you really think the kids have no interaction with other people and that Jon is a hero for bringing them to Walmart or Target or a pizza parlor on his days, because Kate never does? Oh, but you said "If" so....
Why does Jon saying he is going to sue for custody bother everybody? Everyone is focusing on that yet forgetting the kids.
Those kids are living in a prison of their moms making. No child should fear asking for a snack or have to ask if they can go to the bathroom.
What would you think if he did sue and Won? Would the judge be paid off? Would the courts have it wrong? Maybe there are deeper issues that we don't see. Certainly those kids & twins have some issues with the way they have been treated by BOTH parents AND the media and "fans/haters"
Micha, the same could be said about everybody who sides with Kate. She said it, so it MUST be true. Frankly, Kate has shown her true colors just as Jon has at times. Kate is delusional if she is trying to get the kids back on TV. She has no talent (nor does Jon). Kate wants all the perks and accolades that come with TV. But, you need to have some talent that will carry you. Gift of Gab is no talent,, and she really has no gift of gab in any case.
As far as the 15 Min Admin, who gives $.02 about her "other" web sites? That's her business and I'm guessing she hasn't broke any laws. Everyone is free to do as they please, including submitting videos, etc. Why call it a Fetish site? That just makes it easier to vilify her. I would say people here blast her because she isn't a Kate fan. Does that make you feel any better?
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Because it was fetish a site. There's no doubt. The subscribers (their names were indicative of their pleasure), the paid subscription, the categories. I'm not so sure she wasn't breaking the law w/her "teens" category. BL changed that immediately after it was found out what kind of site she was running.
Why care? Because it's hugely hypocritical to call yourself a child advocate and exploit young girls to satisfy a sexual fetish.
Simon- do you actually write those words with a serious face? Do you truly believe what you write?
Lastly, do you honestly believe you are adding to any discussion or just trying to "right fight"?
Since we all know discussions like this will NEVER happen at your hero's blog.
Why go the site and examine all the "names" of the people on that site? You are pretty quick to criticize, yet there you are on the site. You label it fetish. That's your right. That doesn't mean it is though.
I write the comments with serious thought. If you are too blinded by your love of Kate to think there is no other way but her way then you have to ask your self if you are serious. I don't care what "fights" she allows, it's her site.
See, the minute I say anything she becomes my "hero". That's head in sand thinking. If she is bad, why hasn't YOUR hero BV done something about it?
I would say people here blast her because she isn't a Kate fan. Does that make you feel any better?
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I could care less if someone is a fan of Kate's. I don't see any hero worshiping here. Though, I've seen plenty of it over the years by BL's minions. There's a big difference in not being a fan and doing and saying anything to bring down someone you don't like. BL runs an obsessive hate blog. BL has lied about the law and twists everything to bash Kate and favor Jon.
I asked you the other day and I'll ask you again.
"And does the Today interview excuse all of BL's lies...custody, child support, Kate didn't complete the marathon, Jon didn't steal money, hassling the Red Cross, sticking their noses into benefit for a bereaved mother? Does that it make it okay that they copy almost every positive tweet to Kate and mock the tweeter? "
They've harassed everything Kate has done whether or not the children were involved, the ab machine, her coupon site and every appearance. BL thought it was awful for Kate to go on DWTS but it's fine for Jon to go on CT because the end justifies the means. I don't see any of them piling on the message boards of CT like they did when Kate was DWTS. Jon skipped out on his Halloween weekend to do CT. I don't care. But, if it had been Kate, they would be swarming VH1 and the CT's board.
Simon,
Just because Jon or the BL says something, doesn't make it true. You are just throwing out a bone for a reaction. Nice try! A real lawyer would never discuss any issue or family on the internet, how sad.
What do you call a site that shows third world country young girls giving birth and the old geezers asking for more close ups? If she does indeed own this site, the law should get involved, it's disgusting to think anyone would show teenagers giving birth who can't understand the English language. That is nothing but sick warped mind that would do that. imo.
Merryway, are you a lawyer? If not, then you don't know a thing about what are lies or not from her or the blog, about the Law. Her blog is clearly not a Kate love blog, so that makes it and obsessive hate blot? By that logic, this would be an obsessive Kate love blog.
That blog has stated things that NOBODY except Jon and Kate know for sure is true or not. Any blog is free to post opinions and state things as if they are fact. That doesn't mean there is a kernel of truth to them.
For the most part, I see one tweeter who IS obsessed with Kate and she is mocked (Milo). So what? If I had my head so far up Jon's rear to post tweets like she does, I would be fair game as well.
"What do you call a site that shows third world country young girls giving birth and the old geezers asking for more close ups? If she does indeed own this site, the law should get involved, it's disgusting to think anyone would show teenagers giving birth who can't understand the English language. That is nothing but sick warped mind that would do that. imo."
Again, you are making assumptions. I'm not defending her right to post what she wants. If she was breaking the law, I'm sure there are more than enough Kate fans who have tried to turn her in and probably failed.
If she is discussing families or what ever it's her prerogative. If it's not illegal, then there is nothing to say about it. For a group of people who can't stand her or her blog, a lot of people sure seem to know what is being said all the time.
So Jon wants to sue for custody when he has enough money> ROTF. How about paying all the back taxes, buying a home, paying cs first, and get a real job like you say you have without all the paid TV interviews.
The judge will laugh him right out of a court room, been there done that with Jon too many times. Family court does not mess with deadbeats, they throw the book at them. Be careful what you wish for Jon, it might really bite back this time.
Simon, No, I'm not a lawyer. However, I have enough sense to know that child support doesn't magically go away at 50% custody or that an order for CS can't be changed once it's in place. Those are lies BL told to cover for Jon when it came out he no longer had to pay. If your cause is just, you shouldn't have to lie to keep it going.
If the only tweeter you see getting mocked is Milo, you need to read again. It seems you want to deny what is plainly in black and white over at BL's. That sort of makes it hard to have a discussion.
Simon.
I don't follow her site, ewww, lawyers do not spend all day on the internet giving false info out for others to comment on for pleasure. Her basic law sucks, and I would never contact anyone involved with her, who would want to be associated with her, sad she has to run a hate blog on a family that has never done anything to her and to go after minor children again is disgusting.
I have commented on Kate and Jon, and at one time rooted for Jon to get it together. Kids needs both parents, but that site only shows Kate's flaws (according to her who has no children) so her advice means nothing to couples who work together for the sake of all involved. She shows a sense of what one should do to another parents to trash them in court. That is not advocating for children or for parents to get along in a healthy situation for all.
It's one thing to have an opinion, but laws vary from state to state and if you have never been involved with the court system, some things she says are just flat out lies. I do not know PA laws at all, but if you read basic laws from every state concerning, custody, cs. etc, guidelines are there.
Have a nice day!
BL supports parental alienation. I don't even think she knew what it was when she globbed onto it. It was just another thing to throw at Kate. Parental alienation is not what BL says it is.
BL wants parental alienation to be classified as a syndrome. The National Organization For Women opposes parental alienation as a syndrome as do many domestic violence groups. The courts already had a name for it: "false allegations."
Once again, BL had no idea what she is talking about. Read a little about Richard Gardner, the one who came up the idea. He was a sick man and hurt a lot of children with his theory and in the court rooms. BL should be ashamed of herself for promoting this theory.
http://imperfectwomen.com/when-blogging-becomes-dangerous/
No, Simon, no one is making "assumptions" about the birth site. Anyone who saw it with their own eyes knows exactly what it was. And it very well may have been illegal depending on the ages of the teen mothers. Just the fact that she was advertising "teen mothers" speaks volumes. Why would someone wanting to learn about child birth via an educational video care if the person giving birth were a teenager? Someone with a birth fetish, on the other hand, might find that exciting. Perhaps you can explain why the BL spent a weekend redesigning the site to make it seem "educational" after being called out for it? (I'll answer for you...because she knew damn well that it was a fetish site.)
As for there being nothing to say if she's not doing something illegal, you seem to have plenty to say about Kate and she's not doing anything illegal. Even if we take Jon's comments at face value that the kids have to ask permission to go to the bathroom, that's not illegal so based on your criterion you shouldn't have mentioned it. And the BL certainly doesn't limit her comments about Kate to actions she thinks are illegal.
Well, everyone has "chicken little" syndrome. Haters and lovers. I'm not trying to change anyones mind on this blog. You love Kate and Hate Jon. Simply reverse that when you are on a "hate site". People on this site quote articles as fact when it means you can make Jon look or seem bad, but when it's Kate it's all lies (told by the haters and the reporters). Mediocre was mentioned previously. It is bad the way Kate used it in her interview, yet the fans give her a pass and explain it away. It happens with both parents.
I would say Parent Alienation is real. If you don't think it is, you are only fooling yourself or haven't dealt with a crazy spouse who wants nothing more than to hurt the other person. It goes both ways.
Have a a nice day as well!
My, my, Simon you are full of assumptions. Perhaps you can respond to the content of comments rather than throwing out broad generalizations. I, for one, don't worship Kate or think she can do no wrong. For example, I don't think putting the twins back in the media spotlight was the best idea in the world. Where I differ from many of the BL's minions is that I don't think that makes the children fair game. You can claim all you want that there are very few negative comments about the kids, but I know what I read. (And you conveniently forget that the BL stated that she had deleted some comments. That's her strong moral fiber showing through again. She published vile comments about the children, got some flack for it, and deleted them. The comments should never have been published to begin with.)
Lets assume for a minute the site is a fetish site. Who the hell cares? Just as ANYTHING on the internet or TV, if you don't like it don't watch it. To keep it as part of your argument why you don't like her blog, well it's apple and oranges. To say that she spent a weekend redesigning it just shows that you are obsessed with that site. Don't go there if you don't like it.
All the whining the BL does about parental alienation, if you want to buy into that theory and base it on public comments, as the BL does, then Jon is a parental alienator of monumental proportions. Kate has never come close to making the types of comments about Jon that he has about Kate.
Who the hell cares if it's a fetish site? I care, because I find it reprehensible to exploit teenagers and Third World genital mutilation victims for a buck. I am not obsessed with the birth site. You clearly don't know the back story about this, so here's a handy link to educate yourself: http://imperfectwomen.com/google-is-my-friend/
By your logic, who the hell cares what Kate Gosselin does? Don't like her, don't watch her.
Sorry, but anyone that runs/ran a birth fetish/female circumcision site is a pig of epic proportions. Only a social deviant nitwit would spend their time lecturing those that find it dispicable. JMO
Well said Nameless.
" You can claim all you want that there are very few negative comments about the kids, but I know what I read. (And you conveniently forget that the BL stated that she had deleted some comments. That's her strong moral fiber showing through again. She published vile comments about the children, got some flack for it, and deleted them. The comments should never have been published to begin with.)"
Yelling fire in a theater is illegal. Insisting that she "allows" comments that are bad about the kids is ridiculous. How do we know she reads every single comment before approval? And if she has taken some down, that seems to indicate that she didn't see them before posting.
Wow, just wow. The BL is claiming that the family court judge will factor public opinion into a custody decision so he'll get re-elected. I'm not a lawyer (that's for you, Simon), but isn't the "best interest of the child" supposed to be the determining factor?
And I must have missed when "America spoke" and decided that Jon is the better parent. I think 99% of America couldn't care less and has no opinion, .09% think they both suck and the remainder are divided. And not one of our opinions should have ANY relevance on the custody of children we do not know.
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Even if he doesn't win the simple fact that Kate violated a clear provision in their custody order and someone is taking her to task for it is a good thing.
And all this public opinion has been great for his case. The judge is going to see that most people feel she has gone too far. For him to keep letting her go about her nonsense is to go against public opinion, and if he is an elected official, that is something he will need to think twice about. America has spoken. She exploits her children. And America does not like it.
Simon, the BL has a moderated blog. I don't know if it is her 'strong moral fiber' not letting through comments that she owned a birth fetish site or not. But that is why she went to moderation in the first place.
The kid bashing comments went through because she let them.
Social deviant..? Wow. OK, well whatever your opinion is, at least your free to express it in this country. Like I said, apples and oranges. She is free to do anything she wants on the web. A teenager who is 18 or 19 IS legal. I have never seen the site and have no desire to. That said, her Kate blog has NOTHING to do with any birth site (fetish or not). I bet if you google FETISH, you would find a lot of blogs to hate on.
I'm sorry Simon if you don't like that term but that's how I feel. Those that market female circumcision for the sexual gratification of others whether for free (despicable) or for money (even more despicable) are exactly that. Those that make excuses for & try to white wash it aren't any better in my book. It goes against everything I believe in and I cannot even comprehend how a woman could stoop to that level of depravity. It sickens me that those who claim to champion for the Gosselin kids couldn't care less about the women and children in those videos. If you're fine with it that's your choice. I'll shut up about it now out of respect for Sage and this blog but I find it surreal even having to argue this point.
No Simon, her birth fetish blog has EVERYTHING to do with her 15 Minutes blog, because it shows her to be a huge hypocrite and about as far from a child advocate as one can be. She is, quite simply, a fraud.
Thanks for heads up about yelling fire in a theater being illegal. Next time I'm compelled to do that, I'll be sure to heed your warning. Haven't been caught yet. Whew.
I have never seen any comments that say anything meaner than "they are entitled or XXX seems off"
"It's very sad to see Mady following in Kate's lying footsteps."
An example of mean on your blog. Come on people, seriously?
Simon, the only truth everyone has to accept is that those kids are Kate's, and she has the right to raise them however she sees fit. If Jon had any rights he would exercise them. He doesn't - apparently, so all that's left for him to block everything Kate does in any way he can and whine and say his kids are sad and isolated and he wants to save them. Well, sure, go talk to InTouch again, that will help the kids! That will "save" them! He's not trying to help anyone, he's trying to hurt his ex. If he wanted to "help" he wouldn't be airing his grievances to the press, he'd simply and immediately go to his lawyer and get the ball rolling in getting some rights to his allegedly poor deprived children.
If Kate wants to try to get her kids back on tv that's her prerogative. Jon, apparently, has no say in the matter - he has said as much very recently in some interview - I think the TMZ one. As for needing "talent" to be on tv, on reality tv all you need to be is yourself, people will either watch or they won't. Kate and the kids are already known for 1 reality show, who's to say she and the kids won't have another successful run if she gets another show? It's not your call, or Jon's call, or the child advocates call - it's Kate's. If she gets another show everybody I mentioned is quite free to never watch. Oddly, all the people who want Kate and the kids nowhere near tv always seem to watch every single appearance that the kids and Kate make. Huh, I wonder why? lol
People can throw stones at Kate, Jon can disparage the kids as a way to tell the world that Kate is a "terrible mother." Jon can call Kate a "terrible mother, person - a**hole" etc., but it's still Kate who is doing the job of raising HIS kids, and all he's shown is that he's so bitter and angry that he's willing to bite the hand that is feeding his CHILDREN if it means being a nuisance to that "hand." The kids live in a nice house, they are getting an education but Jon seems to want less for them than that. That's shameful.
Nameless in LA -
"Thanks for heads up about yelling fire in a theater being illegal. Next time I'm compelled to do that, I'll be sure to heed your warning. Haven't been caught yet. Whew."
LMAO
Simon,
You say you haven't seen her birth site, yet you state they are 18-19 years old. Sorry, but you just told on yourself. :) As a wife and Mother, I am appalled by her actions as a lawyer. Wouldn't you be advocating for the rights of women not to be exploited? She is suppose to be in family law, protecting kids, and yet you see no problem with this? Eww, is all I can say, it's just so upsetting to see young girls from third world countries being used for pleasure of a paid site. She did clean it up, she hid it from her loyal posters and I never knew what this what this was all about until it was posted somewhere else. You need to research how she trashed her parents, her nanny jobs, etc. and yet she is not married nor does she have children. You tell me WHY no comments have ever been allowed on her site about this issue? I would NEVER want her around my children, people who hide in the dark are a bit scary to me. imo. Yea, it's her right, doesn't make it right.
Have a nice day!
Imagine if Jon was to actually get custody.He'll let the kids run wild at his place and in the woods. Their grades will fall because he's probably be lax with homework.He may let them stay up late on weekdays. That's Jon..Mr Laid back.And not in a good way. Kids need structure. Jon doesn't act like an adult most of the time. His fondness of weed is worrisome with kids around.
Jon said he needs the money to file the paperwork? What does it cost, a few hundred and he thinks he can support kids? Oh my, sad world he lives in. Any lawyer taking this case for Jon would be embarrassed to go into court with all the evidence Jon has put out to the media. Don't think it would fly, but as a parent, Jon might would finally realize that his kids are important enough not to sell stories about them. I think Jon finally has run out of stories now to sell, what's left, exposing a hate blog lawyer, his friend Hoff, or Liz's family? Now that would sell, and Jon might turn into a hero after all.
If Jon is selling stories (he's not giving those InTouch interviews away for free), has earned money on the show he's currently on and STILL doesn't have money to even file paperwork, how does he plan to pay for everything it takes to raise 6 kids, full time? Does he expect the haters to raise the funds for him, so that he doesn't -gasp- have to spend money he earned humiliating himself on tv or by selling nasty stories about his ex-wife on his kids - that money is his "fun" money, not his file paperwork so he can have the privilege of raising his kids money. Someone else is going to have to pay for the kids' things - I guess. This whole thing is a sad joke. What judge in their right mind would even consider allowing Jon to be fully responsible for 6 little kids? Is Jon so unaware of how little he has to offer anyone, including his own kids? It sure does look that way.
Quote from Jon, ROL article:
“Regardless of what the judge decides, I have to at least try."
Does this sound like a man who thinks he has a shot in hell at getting custody of his kids? Doesn't it already sound like he knows what the Judge is going to decide, but hey, he has to "try," right? So that he can get publicity for himself and slam the woman that even he believes a Judge will continue to favor when it comes to custody of the kids.
But until that time it's going to be interview after interview of Jon saying the 6 want to be with him and have it so hard at home because their mom is actually raising them with discipline and structure - which is what parents are supposed to give their kids. A lot of people on ROL have Jon's number. They know he's incapable of raising those kids. They know that kids actually need a parent who is going to parent and they know that Jon hasn't got what it takes. He went too far - as usual, and nobody (except for the haters) is buying this latest twist.
I do believe, for Jon to "get custody" of the 6 gosselins he would have to prove Kate an unfit mother. They don't just change custody agreements when one parent changes their mind on an issue. I can't see how Jon stands a chance- but then again the only real court he cares about is public relations.
As for the BL's birth fetish site, the truth of the matter is that she had video of unconsenting children giving birth. BL must have realized (after her ownership of the money making site was public) that child pornagraphy is a big BIG no-no. If teens can be sent to jail for sexing photos to their partners, what would the law say about adult Lawyers exploiting teanage birth videos for monthly subscriptions say?
"You say you haven't seen her birth site, yet you state they are 18-19 years old. Sorry, but you just told on yourself."
I didn't tell on anything. See that's the problem with fans. If something is said, it's black and white. No middle ground. I assumed 18/19 because someone said they were teenagers. If they are under 18, that would be illegal and 20 isn't a teenager any longer.
My life doesn't revolve around the BL as clearly as it does with some of the fans here. I could care less. She is her own person and a lot of you seem to know her. Based on what? Her Blog? You hate her because of her blog, period.
How do you know these kids are underage or non consenting if they have videos? I think there are more blogs filled with people who read between the lines and think they know it all. I don't claim to know it all and won't spend my time defending something. Stand on your soapbox and sing your disgust to the world, it doesn't matter.
See Simon that's the problem with you "truthers", your world doesn't revolve around the BL and the fans are on a soapbox but clearly your world and most certainly the BL's worlddoes revolve around hating Kate and watching every move she makes. You don't consider it a soapbox when every word that comes out of Kate's mouth is dissected.If you want to talk about worshiping someone and claiming they're a hero read the comments at the BL's about Jon. They blindly worship him and make every excuse in the book for his bad behavior. It is not about worshiping Kate. It is about the constant and unfair criticism that is aimed at Kate. Kate should go after the BL legally, she certainly has the grounds.
Simon, I don't hate the BL and I doubt anyone on this blog hates her.
I hate her hypocrisy. I
It's my opinion that Jon is just trying to get people to send him money, or to offer him another gig. I'm thinking he has no intention of filing. Making a buck off his children some more. The same thing he accuses Kate of doing.
Simon,
I just wanted to say I am glad that you decided to post here. We are always open to other points of view.
May not agree with you on some or all of them but I want you to know you are welcome here too.
I think this all is Jon's ego coming into play again. Remember why he left JK+8? He thought he was more popular than Michael Jackson and he could make tons of money on his own. He wasn't and he didn't.
He is getting attention again from the tabs and talk shows. He doesn't want custody of the kids..he wants the attention that kind of statement gives him.
Sage, Thanks!
"Kate should go after the BL legally, she certainly has the grounds."
To that I say BS. What grounds? Because she says things you don't like. I'd say there are a lot of armchair lawyers.
"Simon, I don't hate the BL and I doubt anyone on this blog hates her.
I hate her hypocrisy."
Child advocation is one thing. Posting videos that show a birth are another. They don't always mean the same thing.
Simon, it isn't that she says things about Kate we don't like it is because she says things about Kate being mentally ill and alcoholic. These are just two of the libelous statements that have been made by her and her commenters on her blog.
BL stated one time that she was told about Kate's 'mental illness' from one of her sources. I think she was played.
Simon,
I have no problem with adults doing their thing on the internet, I was pointing out facts on a birth site with third world country girls giving birth. My word means nothing, it's an opinion. I don't worship Kate or anyone else, I have my own hero's in this world. I stated I have a problem with anyone who bashes on minors, her blog or using young gals for a paid site in giving birth.
Thanks for the conversation, hopefully you and I learned from each other, no bashing of you personally, it was about a hate blog, etc. I have no soap box, it's sad that a lawyer who defends families in court would do this to a family she does not know .
I have been told about a site that has Sanctions for Layers Who Blog, Tweet and Facebook. It's called The Defense Line Blog, think I will do my own research on the issue, just to educate myself on current things.
Simon,
Leaving the birth fetish site out of this...BL is one big hypocrite.
One set of rules for talking about Kate and one for Jon.
No blog on blog but lets mock Milo and other fans of Kate on twitter. what's the difference if it is a public blog or public twitter?
Here's another article about Jon's "plans." A lot of the people commenting seem to see right through Jon. I don't think Jon ever anticipates people calling him on his claims and his inability to do much of anything - forget raising 6 children full time - but they do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2544073/They-live-fear-Kate-Jon-Gosselin-reveals-plans-sue-ex-wife-primary-custody-sextuplets.html
Thanks for the link Micha.
It seems as though Jon is lashing out. He got caught in a lie insinuating that he had a relationship with the twins. When it was exposed that he did not he comes out with I am going for custody of the younger kids.
The twins are only just 13 and Jon wants to hurt them by not caring enough to ask for custody of them. He is evil.
It's sad to see Jon selling stories for a few bucks, he knows a judge would never allow him custody with his past history. Jon is on a rage, the public has called him out for his actions on CT, so to get back at everyone, he goes after his own kids or so it seems. Could a Father get any lower in life, these kids have lived through Jon's hell long enough. Wonder if the court will get involved with his latest actions and shut him down. His past lawyers must be so proud to have represented a Father who has lied to everyone of them and his PR team looks foolish.
I see Jon has Heller as his mouthpiece again. Wonder if he is still not allowed to practice in PA??
Micha- Jon is such a fool to sell his LIES! IMO, eventually the 5 tups that still see him will stop when they realize he sold disparaging stories about them to the tabloids for $$$. They eill also see their mom defended them!
Thank goodness the kids have Kate to teach them life is about rules. It's pathetic Jon is too lazy to teach the 5 tups about the real world. Jon is disgusting!
I missed a lot. Is Jon still a private guy?
"If it's not illegal then there's nothing to say about it."
There goes the Internet!
How does Jon plan to care for the kids when he is so hard at work at his new restaurant career? He hated being a stay-at-home dad in the past.
Heller is Jon's attny, again
It makes me sick the way Jon is acting. The kids deserve better. Wish the judge would make him STFU!
Obviously, couples therapy didn't teach Jon anything! That therapist (refuse to call her Dr.) should concentrate on making those people accountable for their actions!
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Oh brother, Jon never learns! Heller is a JOKE! Court of public opinion knows Jon is a LIAR!
LOL If I remember right heller cannot practice in PA.
Wonder if Heller is the BL's source.
Well I see that reports that the twins and Collin didn't see him were spot on, and the haters have the nerve to call Kate a liar, if Jon's lips are moving he's lying.
Jon sure took is time acting on this. Last year at Christmas there was a quote from Kate saying they let the kids choose where to spend the holidays. Sounds like it was carried over to general visitation. I bet you anything that Kate has texts from Jon about this that shows these decisions were consensual.
Good grief, Jon is with Heller again?
GeeWhiz, Ita.
So how would one explain to the court you missed your weekend visitation and weekly night visit for 2 weeks to fly to California to be on a TV Show. How can Jon afford a lawyer when he pays no cs? If Jon can afford to waste money again in lawyer and court fee's it's time he pays cs for his children. Sorry Jon, the court will know about everything, you put it out there. You know it's all bs as Jon wants to keep selling stupid stories for $. The media needs to ignore him, he will be back page news soon enough.
Heller can't practice in PA. He had to hire another lawyer to proceed in court for Jon. Maybe a certain lawyer will step and show Jon how you kick a Mother's azz in court. LOL. Put up or shut up is my motto. That's 2 lawyers and when Jon loses again, he will blame Kate. Someone anyone, help Jon see that he destroys himself.
I read in one of today's articles that Jon will file when he has saved up enough money to do so. If he's so strapped for cash, how is he going to feed these kids. He certainly doesn't have the budget skills that Kate has. I just hope he doesn't get access to the kids' money.
Ugh. What an ugly divorce. Lordy Be! I hope Jon drops this and they both get some counseling on how to deal with each other. This is awful.
As many of you know here I had an email exchange with a person named 'Angela' a few years ago. Angela was Robert Hoffman. Here is one of the emails that 'Angela' sent me. The she is Ellen. Is this one of the reasons Collin does not go to visitation? (redactions are mine)
angela.rosxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
She treats them badly. More like an angry14-year-old girl would. I told you before about her making fun of Collin for being stupid and for (redacted) for being gay. Who would talk about a child like that. Jon did it right along with her, in front of me.
OMG Sage, I don't believe Kate or Jon would ever said that about one of their children, at least I hope not!
Ellen has always been left out of this whole mix involving Jon and I wonder why? All the other gf's have been talked about except her, where is she hiding?
I didn't put the email up to bash Ellen. She is out of the picture.
If Robert is to be believed, and the haters seem to think he is, it shows that Jon is not the nice daddy that some would want everyone to believe.
Ellen was Angela. I wasn't expecting that.
Ellen was not Angela...Robert Hoffman was Angela.
Wasn't it Collin who Jon was mean to in "A walk in the woods" He kept telling him to man up and was pretty mean. Actually, he was mean to all the tups in that episode. That's the way he probably is with them when he has them.
Were there any consequences for Jon filing the false police report, and possibly insurance fraud related to the trashing of his apartment?
Sage,
It's just so sad to see this.
Jon should have handled all of this is private, he did not need to get the tabloids involved, that is not being private about his children. Hopefully the court steps in with both parents and puts a stop to all of this. You can't say you want to be private and scream a story to the rags everyday. If he was a real Dad he would call out all the haters that defend his actions and say, "I should have stayed private, don't discuss my children or Kate".
grafter, possibly. No charges were ever brought against Hailey whom Jon blamed.
So who can say? :)
Yes Frakle I agree with you. Both need to zip it.
Rhymes with Witch said... 180
Since we don't aggressively tweet them (thus nicknames) and aren't spam, the "free speech crusaders" like to silence us by buying followers for us when we're not paying attention, then report us to Twitter. 141
They actually spend money on this crap?
January 22, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Tweetie said... 181
Rhymes, yes they spend money to harm us, even for extensive background checks. They're obsessed.
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They really do wear tinfoil hats. They're truly paranoid.
Jon says the sextuplets want to live with him, yet Collin (according to the E! article) hasn't "had privileges with Collin since August." Collin's one of the sextuplets - he doesn't want to even VISIT Jon. I just keep seeing Jon making these moves, thinking of course "the people" will be on his "side" and the opposite happens. All these people are commenting and asking how he thinks he can have the 6 full time when he can't even pay for a lawyer to file papers to try to get the 6 full time.
Sage, about what you said here: "The twins are only just 13 and Jon wants to hurt them by not caring enough to ask for custody of them. He is evil."
I never really thought of it that way but, yes, I think you're right. He's like a child trying to get back at his own kids by saying he only wants custody of the 6. And he talks about the children having "developmental" problems? He's acting like a ten year old, not a grown man who wants what is best for his children. The fact that he's omitted the girls from his plans to file for custody just shows how little he cares for anything other than "getting even" with Kate and the girls because they expressed a less than glowing opinion about him!
The only good thing about this newest mess is that so many people are seeing what Jon really is and saying so. A lot of the comments on all these articles really show what people think of Jon's latest stunt.
Farkle said...
Sage,
It's just so sad to see this.
Jon should have handled all of this is private, he did not need to get the tabloids involved, that is not being private about his children.
There is nothing to handle privately, because this isn't about what Jon says it's about - allegedly rescuing the kids. This is about Jon doing his own form of "damage control" for himself because of the People article and the interviews that the girls did. You know Jon was more upset about the View interview where the girls DID talk and didn't want to comment on their father. This is his way of getting even. He thinks he's making himself look "good" ha! and "caring" OMG, by saying that he's going to try to get custody of only 6 of his 8 children...as soon as he can get the money together to do so. That's a caring parent. He cares about almost ALL his children, the majority of them! What a guy. And of course if Jon doesn't even have enough money to file papers he'll have enough money to support the six children he says he "cares" about, right? He's a joke. This isn't a private matter, it's a stunt made for the tabloids.
I have to share my favorite quote from an email that angela/Robert sent me. It is about the 15 minions and what he really thinks after I asked him if he read there.
angela.rosxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't really focused hard enough on the 15 comments because they're sickeningly stupid most of the time,
They all keep saying that Kate needs to shut down her Twitter but if she ever does they'll go crazy. First they'll high five each other and then they'll wonder what she's doing. They don't want her off Twitter.
I really would like to think if Jon had not have gotten mixed up with Hoff, his life would be so much better today. I think Hoff might have told Jon, you could be very rich, sitting on top of the world by trashing your ex and TLC. Angela fed a hate blog, and she passed around false info (nothing she posted came true) just so she thought she was in the know. She looks very foolish, and the law world would have a very hardy laugh at her if she was exposed in a book. I think the best seller in all of this would be about the tweets and hate blog of the haters.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 91
Remember how she would so proudly brag that three of the kids were with her on weekends? The twins and Colin.
Bitch will eat her words bragging about that. Karma.
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She's far to involved in this. It's like she's taking it personally.She's also threatening Kate.
She is a wack. Like Trashman and Jon. That is why all these crazy people gravitate towards one another. I can just imagine all of them in a rubber room together.
So last week Jon makes a big production out of telling TMZ how badly he feels for the twins -he's going to text them and eventually hug them etc. Now this week he only wants custody of the 6 and not them? I don't get that guy.
Micha, I agree with your opinion that is a tabloid stunt .. It is eerily reminiscent of the stunt he pulled while Kate was on DWTS. He can't stand for her to have any job that makes her look good...and The View was a positive interview with the twins.
Did anybody see Wendy Williams on The View, talking about yelling at her kid, she can't "crack his head" anymore because he's too big, being very big on discipline and expecting things done when she asks the first time...and showing the card that her son made for her where he says nice things about her and saying "I'm a MOM" as an explanation for all her feelings/actions regarding her son...
You think any of the child advocates are going to be disgusted over what she said about being a parent, because she sure did not sound like a mom "spared the rod" on her kid. That's being a mom. All that WW said on that show is all that the haters are always on Kate about, yelling, expecting things done right away, spanking. There's a fresh new target for all the "child advocates." But, wait, WW thinks Jon is a man of "principle" so I'm sure she gets a pass for being the same sort of Mom they say Kate is, only with less children to yell at.
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