Friday, December 9, 2016

Merry Christmas....Open Discussion


138 comments:

Sage said...

Had to get something Christmassy up.

PJ's momma said...
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PJ's momma said...

Sorry but I realized my comment looked weird. I was speaking to my adolescent boy tendencies and it was not directed at anyone here!

Nameless in LA said...

Ha, I thought your comment was funny, PJ's Momma!

So much deep thought going into a scavenger hunt party over by the BL. That girl seriously needs to find a hobby. (And no, pondering who cheated the most in a reality TV activity does not constitute a hobby.) I'm sure she said plenty in her long-ass recap but felt compelled to add more. She cracks me up with her need to repeat things for emphasis. "My God, she is setting these kids up for absolute failure. Absolute failure." So dramatic.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 29

I think Kate cheated more than Andrea. The girls were headed to the wrong place and Kate said she purposely drove past the clown because she knew they would see it and realize that is where they were supposed to stop.

I probably would have done the same thing, but I would have let them know that they had help too.

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What strikes me writing the recap and even now is that the girls had NO IDEA what Andrea told the boys or didn't. The only thing they knew is the boys had a ten minute lead. But their minds immediately go to a very sinister place where they are sure the boys cheated.

But what the girls DID know, is that they had three more girls, they had a girl in their party who knew the beef jerky place, and if she didn't Kate should have told them she drove them by the clown instead of letting them go on a wild goose chase to a random store and waste even more time. If Kate had just gone to the party store like they told her to, the 10 minute lead surely wouldn't have mattered anyway, because the boys would have blown them out of the water. It's just as fair to say the girls "cheated" but lost anyway.

And yes, she should have told them not to be bitter, but to find it in their hearts to be happy for their brothers. She has fostered a very ugly competitiveness in them that is not going to serve them well, and what's more, seems to think this is a good trait! Can you imagine behaving like this as an adult at work? You get a promotion and you prance around dancing on tables, in your face everybody! Or your office mate gets promoted and you don't this time, and you sulk and claim they must have somehow cheated their way up? My God, she is setting these kids up for absolute failure. Absolute failure.

PJ's momma said...

My eyes still gonthere! 😜

Why watch something you don't like? Especially if it upsets you. I don't watch. It's easy!

Micha said...

There are so many things in the world to be truly upset about. Kate Plus 8 is not one of them.

Anonymous said...

I agree. It's almost like they're secretly fans of the show.

Ugh and don't get me started with those Twitter haters. They literally bum-rush ANYONE who is in contact with Kate. It's crazy.

-Kendall

Anonymous said...

How ironic! Ya'll talk about BL like she talks about Kate! Someone once said, why read something you don't like? Especially if it upsets you. Just don't read. It's that easy! Ya'll have yerselves a swell day, ya hear!

Micha said...

I never go to BL's blog, I only read what other people post here, but it doesn't upset me. It does make me wonder how you can go from not liking someone (which I guess is how her blog started) to fixating on what you don't like and dedicating so much of your time to it. It's can't be all that "swell" to live that kind of life.

PJ's momma said...

Who's upset? Some of it is very entertaining!

Anonymous said...

Well if it ain't a dang ya'll day! Seems it upset ya'll enough ta switch playgrounds! Ho Ho Ho and a Merry Christmas ta ya'll!!!!

Farkle said...

OMG, the BL should know about failure. ROTF.

I don't read her blog, just what is posted here. She's boring, she repeats herself over and over, her bots are entertaining, changes a few words here and there, any dummy can see that. Sad way to entertain oneself on a daily bases.


Happy Season Greetings to you Sage and all the peeps here. Such a busy time for everyone. :)

Anonymous said...

Well they claim they don't watch the show but they sure do keep up with her Twitter and IG posts for some reason. If you don't like the person at all, why do you care so much to even look at their social media?

-Kendall

Anonymous said...

Well here's one for ya! Why do the peeps here claim " I never go to BL's blog" "I don't read her blog"? This blog is all about BL's blog, why would you not 'go to' BL's blog so you would know what in hell you are commenting about? Those claims are ridiculous!

Micha said...

Speaking for myself, it's not a "claim," it's a fact. I don't go to BL's blog. I wouldn't know what's going on there if it wasn't posted here. After a certain point I realized that what's going on over there is that people are envious and bitter and it comes out as anger regarding anything Kate. The people that go there but don't share that mindset...they are made of stronger stuff than I am.

Of course if there is a comment posted here that I want to respond to, I respond to it. The biggest difference between the people who post there and people who post here is that most people there are waiting for some gloomy fate to finally attach itself to Kate, and people here (for the most part) just hope for the best for the Gosselin family.

Farkle said...

You can see on twitter the ones who make fun of her blog. They have been known to SS her blog in pieces. You can accuse all you want, prove it.

Nameless in LA said...

I know it's only Tuesday, but can we award this week's "no self-awareness" prize now? I don't think the BL can be topped...A woman whose idea of "snark" is to hope that a 3 year-old she didn't like would get lice is taking Kate to task for humor "at the expense of others." Oh, and for not being funny. Admittedly it has been eons since I skimmed one of her longer-than-the-show-itself recaps, but unless there has been vast improvement over the years, the BL herself is...not funny.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 53

I never thought Kate was funny. The toddlers were funny in the old days, but never her.

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I don't find her funny. Her "humor" is one note, and often at the expense of others. Even when I didn't realize how much I disliked her, like in the early episodes, I never found her funny.

The few narcissist I have known I have found that they had no sense of humor or understanding of humor, although would still make attempts to be funny or laugh at other's jokes (though, not really get them).

merryway said...


Nameless, I noticed Bl called Mady a brat in one of her recaps. She also couldn't stand to give the kids any credit for the igloo they built. She had to criticize because the family used tarping as a roof. She couldn't manage to mention that the kids worked hard and had fun. Kate had a no expectations other than having a good time and a lesson in working together.

I think it's funny how they tell each other every day that the G kids are quivering, quaking, eager to please, suffering from parentification, and terrified of stepping out of line or being sent away like brother Collin. Anyone watching the show can see that the kids are not any of those things.

All that blathering about Collin being left out (which is a shame), but Jon has been carrying on family life without all of his kids for quite some time. Why isn't the "all-or-nothing" obligation put on Jon's shoulder's?

I read at Bl's all the time. I find bl fascinating, an attorney who will publicly lie about the law because of her hatred of a reality tv mom. She outright lies and they follow. They use the privacy of the children as a veiled excuse to hate on a tv personality. Yeah, they put on quite a show. They constantly contradict themselves. I just caught up reading and see that their latest outrage is that Kate has be the center of attention, involve herself in everything to play with the kids. They used to blast Kate for sitting on her plastic throne not playing with the kids.

Bl loves to call Kate a doofus. You know what a doofus really is? A doofus is someone who doesn't pay the nominal feel to have their name privatized as the owner of a subscription birth fetish site.

merryway said...

click!

The BL blog said...

merryway---

Spot on, the BL has to lie about the law to keep her few followers. They don't understand that the laws are different in every state. That must be so hard for uneducated people to get, such a pity that she takes advantage of such troubled souls.

Sage said...

Merry, love this!

"Bl loves to call Kate a doofus. You know what a doofus really is? A doofus is someone who doesn't pay the nominal feel to have their name privatized as the owner of a subscription birth fetish site."

As usual you nailed Becks. lol




Sage said...

Ooops, Almost forgot to mention Kate is interviewed on the Dr. Oz show today.

Farkle said...

Sage,

Didn't know Kate would be on OZ, so will have to wait for the every word report from the fetish site. :)

Nameless in LA said...

Someone sure hasn't changed since her days of bitching about her parents taking her to Olive Garden and buying her the wrong Christmas presents. Her values are so f'ed up.
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 101
Cookies usually are a nice gesture but so many people can't eat them due to dietary restrictions, health issues, and they're not that expensive to make. It's not really that resounding of a thank you to give someone 4 bucks worth of cookies. Combined with a gift card or something else of value is nicer, or leave them out all together.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand... Why MUST someone give you some lavish gift during Christmas? Quite frankly, I would be more than happy to receive Cinnamon buns or any baked goods for Christmas. She's just looking for something to get mad about when it comes to Kate. That's honestly one thing you don't need to piece apart and bitch about...

-Kendall

Sage said...

Nameless, she is twisted. I felt so bad for her parents after reading that narcissistic post about her parents. Wonder what happened in her childhood to make her so hateful and bitter.

I watched Kate on Dr. Oz. I found it to be very sad in the fact she is constantly attacked by the rumblings and imaginations of the haters.

It is obvious that she didn't tell Jon where Collin is because he would sell it to a tabloid...he has in the past.

People need to open their eyes to the fact there is a reason Kate has the kids and Jon does not. Why she has legal custody and Jon does not.

Micha said...

Seems like typical BL - trying to find the negative in anything and everything, even in the little gift Kate might give to someone for Christmas. As if to say, ' if you're tempted to think that Kate is doing something nice, she could still do more and she could do it better.'

That poor BL, swimming in her negativity everyday of the year.

PJ's momma said...

Someone, please bake us something! We just bought a wee cake because there are only two of us and I am not about to bake for two.

I tip my hairdresser each time - why does she 'deserve' double at the holidays? She's already getting paid AND getting a tip. (My hairdresser friend in Florida just confirmed that she does NOT expect nor get extra at the holidays.) I do think teachers deserve a little token if possible, because they are usually underpaid and not compensated directly from the parents of their students, but if they get baked goods, so what? It reminds me of the comical scene in A Christmas Story where the kids all line up to give the teacher a gift and she has a cute smile on her face. Have you heard the quote, "We judge ourselves by our intentions. And others by their actions." It's true!

I don't get it. Any gift that is given is a nice gesture. Gifts are not mandatory.

Anonymous said...

Whoever Sad but true is on that blog REALLY goes out of their way to look for updates on Kate's social media lol.

-Kendall

merryway said...

Aren't they sweetest bunch? Dissing someone's gift giving is always keeping with the spirit of the season. So is slamming another person's looks.
Can you imagine their hoopla if Kate said something such as this?

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Sad but true said... 5

New IG. How KIND of Kate to post this video of her BFF Jamie. The opening frame is beyond horrid. Jamie's put on a lot of weight, and she still has the Kate fingernails. Gross.

kateplusmy8 Playing 'Speak Out' (a version of LOLZ) and Jamie just can't talk! #GameTimeOverHolidays #Hilarious

You really gotta see this one:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOIulKXjG27/?taken-by=kateplusmy8&hl=en
December 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM

Micha said...

I suppose they think that Kate posted that video without Jamie's permission/consent/approval.

Jamie knows all about the nasty haters out there, and it looks like she doesn't care what they say about her.

That must be infuriating for the haters.

Sage said...

Jamie has a lot of confidence. I think that bothers the bleeple. They sound so junior hoggish. They talk about weight and looks.

Sage said...

They are saying at BL's that Jamie does not have custody of her kids which is wrong. Jamie addressed this on twitter a long time ago. She has primary custody but ex husband has generous visitation.

Sage said...

Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Puppies & Poconos 12/13/2016":

TLC stinks said... 130
I suspect Jon's attorney has been building a case for years. Although there has been frustration expressed by me and others here, the tipping point was Collin taken away and the subsequent investigation by CPS. I believe this may result in her losing primary physical custody of Collin to Jon.
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I do, too, and think 'what's to lose?'. I mean, really. Collin has not thrived with Kate. He's been thrown out of school once, expelled for good and now, his situation is so dire, that he's been taken out of his home.
Since that boy was 5 or 6 years of age, it's been a downward trajectory with Kate.
Based on evidence, Collin probably should not be placed back with Kate in that home.
Based on evidence, half of the children are suffering from severe dysfunction.
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These people have the most twisted imaginations.....and that it is all it is imagination!

get therapy...now

Quiltart said...

They are not words... Twisted doesn't begin to describe them.

Quiltart said...

How could Jon's attorney have been building a case for years? He's gone through attorneys as fast as he's gone through girlfriends.

merryway said...

Oh my, they are living the fantasy over at Bl's... daily hearings, friends of Kate being investigated and testifying against her, Collin being handed over to Jon by Christmas.
The ones who think that Jon's attorney has been building a case for years really cracked me up. Yeah, that's why Jon lost or gave up rights along the way. And forget all about the supposed custody hearing of Hannah. If it even occurred, nothing happened. If Jon went for joint or sole custody of Hannah, he lost. All the time he had not seen Collin, he wasn't worried about him out of sight and suffering daily abuse by his demonic mother. He only wanted to rescue Hannah.

The CPS thing is ridiculous, It's so sick how they want Collin to be abused so they can justify their hatred. They keep ignoring that if CPS was involved, Jon was not found to be suitable placement. They also keep ignoring that Jon hasn't mentioned visitation with Collin, only that he wants to know where he is.
If Jon's Thanksgiving visit story was true, he has little chance of a change in custody or visitation. Only four kids for a couple of hours is not a win.

Micha said...

So there are people over who believe that Jon will possibly get primary custody of one child, and it's the child with special needs and with whom Jon hasn't had a relationship for years? Do they try to make sense over there, or is the goal to be as off the wall as possible?

Sage said...

All This Is That has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":

I hope Jon and his attorney took note of the "circus of idiots" comment, even if it were said in jest.
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These people are so ridiculous! LOL if that were the case I hope Kate and her attorney have the 'hope she fucking dies' comment of Jons.

Anonymous said...

HUGE difference! What Jon said was aimed at Kate. Kate was putting down her own children, as per usual. When have you heard Jon talk trash about his kids?

Anonymous said...

Wasn't it said that Jon and an ex would say mean things to Collin at one point?

-Kendall

kaywill 18 said...
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Sage said...

Kendall, Yes, Hoffman told me in an email that Jon and a girlfriend were mean to Collin.

Anon, color it anyway you want when a father says that about his kids mother...game over.

Micha said...

Yeah, saying you want the mother of your children isn't hurtful to the children at all. They won't be creeped out by that. Kate saying "circus of idiots" will shatter the kids and keep them in therapy indefinitely. Either that or they'll laugh at her and say, 'oh that mom.'

On the upside it's something new for the obsessive "non-fan" fans to obsess over. What a great gift Kate has given to them at Christmas time.

Micha said...

There are a couple of words missing from my previous comment, and since they are the creepiest part of Jon's comments, I feel like I don't want to type them in this comment.

For anyone who might be confused (hi, you know who you are) see Sage's first comment dated December 21 to see what Jon has said in the past, on national television, about what he hopes for his ex-wife.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

So extra... Of all of the things to get mad at Kate about...

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GollyGee said... 179
Aaden was role playing a blind person in the water. The instructor gave the kids different roles to play.

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Even so, if Aaden was playing the role of a blind person in the helicopter, his mother had NO RIGHT as an allegedly good mom to holler, Aaden, HE'S BLIND! She is very cruel.

She has really acted like a absolute jackass about her poor son needed EYE WEAR. I wonder if she has already having to start wearing readers herself. That is the first step to having to get your eyes checked and start wearing glasses. It is just a part of getting older.


-Kendall

Sage said...

Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":

Kate's family has shown the utmost of restraint. I still have my doubts that it really was her mom, Charlene, posting on some fan sit, trashing Jodi and writing about how amazing Kate is.
I don't know if that comment was ever vetted properly, but it didn't make sense for Kate's mother to say such nasty things about Jodi, of all people
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Kate's mother maybe said the things she did about Jodi because she knows her. Unlike Tuck here where Jodi only exists in her mind.

Sage said...

Poor Bobby, I would hop right over and donate but he wasn't too happy with me the last time we communicated.

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NOIP has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":

NJGal51 # 189
Donations can be made at Gosselinbook(dot)com...scroll down. Robert is resting at home. He said he's feeling better. Someone else asked about his kids, he has 3 girls he's madly in love with.
BTW for the sheep who read here, Robert NEVER asked for ANY donations. I'm just making a suggestion since he's been unable to work for a while prior to surgery because of his heart valve problem. TIA

Sage said...

Sheesh, these people are really spiralling out of control. Black hearts, black thoughts.

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CC has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":


It's not just one aspect of their lives that is terrible. Those kids are abused by their mother, physically, emotionally, and psychologically.

They are also estranged from their father because of their mother alienating him.

They may also be bullied at school because of their lives being made public, or being famous.

They just lost their brother. They saw him sent away by their mother, or maybe even taken away.

They are made to do magazine interviews, photo shoots, tv talk show appearances.

Those kids may have a big house and vacations but they live sad lives.

Those kids are also being raised by Kate. They follow her example of being rude and ungrateful. They probably had to get up before dawn for make-up and to go over what is expected of them. They may even be told to act up for drama purposes.

Mady is the only one that seems to have Kate's personality as far as really enjoying her role in the show. The other kids all seem to be floundering.

Nameless in LA said...

Meanwhile, their fearless leader, child advocate extraordinaire, called the kids "vile." The same fearless leader who, as an adult, dissed her parents on a public blog for the gifts they gave her and their choice of restaurants. Yeah, she's the epitome of a grateful child.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 21

The fact is, these kids are vile and ungrateful about their lives, and the reality is, it's not attractive. Normal people who have adversity in their life don't walk around being jerks because nobody cares you got dealt a shit hand. The ungrateful snippy behavior needs to stop, it's not going to lead to anything positive in their lives.

PJ's momma said...

I do read over there but try not to do blog on blog, but this has me shaking my head. One guess to the author. My gosh, our decorations growing up would have made her weep, with fury or pity, or maybe both. We used the same old angel and ornaments and paper chains from school year after year and hung up a few garlands with tape. We had those old lights that, if the strand didn't work, you had to figure out which bulb burned out to make them all work. Of course it happened every year. And it was funny. And it made us happy. There was no magical transformation - it was still just our house. Those simple traditions and decorations made us happy year after year. Now we don't decorate at all. I guess I'm no Martha Stewart either. Never claimed to be. And to my knowledge, neither did Kate.

Nada. Maybe she got Jamie and Ashley to put her decorations up for her.
I think Kate's holiday decorations are always rather sparse. She's not Martha Stewart and has never shown a knack for festooning the home and pulling off magical transformations.

Anonymous said...

Nameless,

One of the posters called her out for using the term "vile". That was beyond a poor choice of words and quite frankly, dramatic.

-Kendall

Micha said...

Well isn't it interesting that these kids who are characterized as "poor, abused children" can still be called "vile" by the person who also thinks that they are abused? She's getting her message mixed up, and forgetting that she wants people to think the kids are being hurt, not being indulged and spoiled by the lifestyle they get to lead because they have this show.

Are they abused and in need of rescue or "ungrateful" and "snippy" and "vile" about the privileged lives they are leading?

They're kids. They're not "abused." They are being raised in an environment where they have things and maybe (like a lot of kids) they don't realize that there are people out there with so little. I'm sure they know that, but it doesn't always have a profound effect on a kid to just know there is poverty and need out there.

But BL's envy is stomping all over her pretend message that the kids are in need of rescue from their mommy.

Sage said...

Wishing all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy Hanukkah!

merryway said...

Happy Holidays Everyone!

belle fidele said...

Merry Christmas everyone. Please be careful on the roads.

Quiltart said...

Happy Holidays to Sage and the gang! I'm writing from sunny Barcelona!

Shawn said...

Happy Holidays!!!

Micha said...

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

Anonymous said...

Happy Holidays everyone!

-Kendall

PJ's momma said...

Merry Christmas! Hope everyone had a wonderful day, whether you celebrate or not!

Farkle said...

Hope everyone had a safe and wonderful holiday!


Wishing the best to a for a New Year!

Author: Terri Celestine Brunson said...

Merry Christmas and a happy new year everyone. Be safe and very blessed as we all approach 2017.

Sage said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":



Don't whitewash. There is continual speculation as to where he is, if he's going home, when he's going home, will he film, won't he film, is he getting visitors from family. It's unnecessary and intrusive. What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?

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I fail to follow how it's "intrusive" for someone to simply wonder where a kid is. I don't get that. I find speculation about WHAT is wrong with him, if anything, far more inappropriate than simply wondering who he spent his holidays with.

And I never said it's okay to speculate about any of this. In fact, people probably shouldn't on the off chance it takes off and adds to the kid's burdens, and if you notice, I've tended to avoid those lines of conversations myself.

What I said was, the reason people want to know where he is is not because they care where he is or like to speculate, but because they want to know he's OKAY. People CARE about this boy. In fact, one of the only good things I can think of about this situation is I've seen many of the fans themselves put aside everything else and express a very deep and sincere level of caring for him. Even such that they'll forgo loyalty to Kate. They are, for the first time, changing the channel on her, actively, intentionally. It's amazing. I honestly never thought they would question her handling of this. So many of us agree he isn't being treated right in this situation, fans and "haters" alike, it's an important point, and it's more important than all the other ways we disagree when it comes to the Gosselins.

I don't care if you are in Nevada or New York or New Jersey, but if I know that you are only okay in New Jersey, then yes, I'm going to wonder if you are in NJ. It's not me caring two hoots WHERE you are, but rather, me caring.

That said, I'm not going to run this place like a stuffy school teacher drawing arbitrary lines in the sand about what is and isn't okay to discuss. The blog has its rules, people follow them, and they should be able to have free reign to take the discussion where it goes, within reason. If it gets out of line, that's for the mods to decide. As always, concerns about the blog should be emailed to me. It's not productive to scold people for their line of conversation, especially when you don't moderate this place and get to decide that. It is helpful, however, to give people the benefit of the doubt in terms of where the speculation is coming from. Why not ask them why they're wondering about this or that? You might learn something.
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Becks is such a vile hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Sage I was thinking the same thing. She has made multiple comments speculating where Collin is placed and whatnot. How do you supposedly care about the well being of the kids and in the same breath call them "vile"?

-Kendall

Nameless in LA said...

They are working themselves into a frenzy of righteousness over there this morning, culminating with Tucker's Mom essentially equating "silence" about Collin to standing by why the Nazis slaughtered the Jews. Apparently madly Googling to find the name of Collin's facility and speculating endlessly about his diagnosis is the epitome of child advocacy. What strong moral fiber the BL and her bleeple possess. Such brave keyboard warriors.

Confidential to Tucker's Mom: Get a hobby, find some friends, do SOMETHING other than post all day long on that blog. Or to put it in more direct terms: STFU.
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Tucker's Mom said... 144
What's wrong with expressing one's sadness at the situation and then leaving him in peace?
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Because that is EXACTLY the righteous indignation that Kate Gosselin uses to keep people in line, to shut them up so that she can continue selling her remaining children's lives.
It's that silence that's kept this woman's pursuit of fame on the backs of her children alive.
Kate Gosselin depends on our collective silence and SHAME in wanting to know where her 12-year old son is.
No me, hon. Not me.
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Tucker's Mom said... 147

Asking questions, taking a stand and demanding answers should be encouraged, not scolded. Without it, this show would be getting a lot better ratings than it actually is, so thank God some people were willing to take that stand instead of just saying to themselves, well, no, I don't want to be a busybody.
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Evil is allowed to exist when good people stand by and do nothing, or something like that!
I won't be shamed into silence.
What I know as sure as I'm sitting here, is that Kate Gosselin would use her sacrificing for Collin, taking time to see him and doing the necessary things to help him, to her advantage.
I truly, truly believe that Collin is just like Kate's parents, her siblings, Beth, Jon and ALL the other people who don't know how to help her: disappeared.

Sage said...

Nameless, they seem to be on some hysterical frenzy over there. Good grief! Way to invested into what course of help a mother is getting for her child without knowing any of the facts.

Tucker is really going off the rails. Apparently she has no family of her own or life for that matter.

PJ's momma said...

There is a guy working here today so I am holed up upstairs trying to keep the dog quiet. Lots of time to count obsessions, oops, posts. 33 so far today from Thesaurus Mom and it is only lunchtime here. Yowza. Did you all see that she started claiming to work in medical and also called herself a real runner? These facts are just snuck in. never during marathon gate was there a word about it being a runner. It is all so bizarre and fascinating.

merryway said...

33? WOW!

They do get in such a tizzy when someone challenges their motives for hating on Kate. Bl is always there with a long-winded excuse of why it's okay. It's only not okay when it's about Jon. Then, Bl is there with another long-winded explanation.

It's news to me that whenever the whim hits and for as long as one wants, you can send your kid away to a residential medical facility. I didn't think they accepted patients on a walk-in basis. ;) Seems to me a diagnosis and referral would be in order, plus whatever criteria the center would require in order to facilitate treatment. How did Kate ever wrangle the psychiatrist and therapist to bow to her whims? Didn't know insurance was so lax that you could just ring up and make a reservation for the rest of your kid's life.

They can't make up their minds. It's either CPS agreed for Collin to be placed in residential program instead of the state taking custody (totally ignoring that CPS overlooked Jon), or Kate sent Collin away because he defied her. How quickly they forget that one of their mantras was that Kate would never break up her 8-pack.

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FlimsyFlamsy said... 190

Tucker's Mom (#186), when she said "everyone leaves but I can't," we found out there was a more to it. She can't leave, but she can send your butt away at any time, for as long as she needs to, and everything will go one without you as if you were never there, and there will still be as much chaotic fun as ever, if not more. It's still startling to me how I underestimated her evil streak.
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PJ's momma said...

I predict 40 posts by 2 pm PST. 😄

How can you claim something is nobody's business while simultaneously justifying everyone's right to keep questioning it because it was revealed? That makes no sense at all!

Sage said...

ncgirl has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Gosselins in Space 12/20/2016":

"So K8's #Rockin'BikiniBod + #Milo + #WetSandyDogs = #PlayDate? Sounds a little kinky to me."

Milo likes Kate's puppies. And the dogs too.

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These people are so juvenile I am embarrassed for them. They also think they are funny.....fail!

Anonymous said...

They seem to post this person Julie's tweets a lot. I checked out her Twitter and all that girl does is criticize Kate and the show. Yet, she actively tunes in every week to watch it. Kind of sounds like some of the bleeps I would say lol.

-Kendall

merryway said...

On the show this week, Kate said they had discovered the perfect oatmeal on their vacation. She recreated the recipe for a special breakfast. She made up individual cups (the oatmeal had toppings) and carried it to the dock for her and the tups. She was at ease, the kids were relaxed. It was a sweet family time. After breakfast, the kids had a blast playing on one of those big inflatable floating dock trampoline things. It looked like a perfect morning. Kate even tweeted a thank you to their vacation neighbors for letting them use the big floaty thing. But, none of that is good enough for the creeps at Bl's. They never talk about Jon in such a way as Kris does below. Jon can work for a shady company that sues him for a million, get evicted, throw hissies bashing Kate, run to the tabloids and go without seeing his kids. Yet the bleeps will praise him while bashing his children.
They can't acknowledge any of the positives the kids display. It's really sick to watch little kids just to try to find something to rip and bash. Really really sick.

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JustMissy said... 179
I also forgot to mention that she made a big deal of pouring juice for the kids at breakfast on the dock. She poured little half cups like they were toddlers.
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And lets not forget how she made them say "thank you." Of course there is nothing wrong with the kids saying thank you but if she's been drilling it into their heads since they were little, it would be habit by now. Truly shows how ungrateful they are.
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Nameless in LA said...

The BL is really stretching to come up with something to be indignant about. Oh, the drama!
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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 124

It occurred to me her comment about lounging around this week is rather insensitive to all the parents who have to work, who can't take time off during xmas week. As we've said before, school vacations and summer vacation often just make things harder for working parents, especially single parents, because now they have to figure out childcare, too. This is the week where 6 year olds are dragged into work with a coloring book because the baby-sitter is sick. This is the week where REAL single parents, and many other parents as well, have to power through despite exhaustion from the holidays and entertaining and credit card bills. By not working a real job, she is getting very out of touch with normal parents.

Anonymous said...

Nameless.... I can't even.

BL is really that pressed to find something wrong with Kate's picture that that's what she came up with? Kate looks very pretty in the photo and they just don't want to admit it.

-Kendall

Sage said...

Merry, it is awful how those vile bitches have turned on the kids. How can they live with themselves?

Sage said...

Love this who ever posted it. I'm shocked Becks let this through.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Beach Time! 12/27/2016":

I can say what I like about what they're doing. They put it on TV. Don't want me to say anything, don't splash your business ideas all over TV. It's as simple as that.
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Of course you can. And I can say what I want about your obnoxious, know-it-all posts. It's as simple as that. Really, is there any subject on which you don't consider yourself the foremost authority?

PJ's momma said...

I am glad people are speaking out about braces. We both had them in our late 30s and at our appointments, we were both always surrounded by kids who were in their second or even third set. I asked the doc why that was and he just laughed. Ka-Ching! Our niece was in them half her childhood, off and on. And her teeth don't look great at 17. For her, and her older sisters, it was a status thing for the parents. I mean, all three kids were in braces when they were missing teeth! It's ridiculous. Why not wait until they are ready for real and just do one and done?

Anonymous said...

They think it's "strange" that one of the boys is just now getting braces. What's strange about that?

-Kendall

PJ's momma said...

That's what I mean, Kendall. Maybe the girls were ready before the boys and now the boys are ready. Good lord, not everything is a slight or a conspiracy.

Anonymous said...

They just don't want to give Kate the benefit of the doubt. Do they really believe Kate was court ordered to get Aaden braces? I always kind of figured the boys would get their braces later because most of the girls lost their baby teeth very young (Hannah for example).

-ajw

Anonymous said...

I forgot to introduce myself! I go by the name of ajw, which are my initials. Well I have posted on 15 minutes before. While I do agree that there are certain things I don't agree with that Kate does, for the most part, a lot of what is being posted on the blog is a bunch of BS in my opinion. The idea that Kate may have been "court ordered" to get any of the boys braces is ridiculous to say the least. Sometimes, even if you dislike someone, you have to give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes.

Found this blog and from the looks of it, it seems to have better energy than over at 15 minutes. So hello everyone!


-ajw

Sage said...

Welcome ajw.

We don't have as many comments here but then again we aren't crazy. :)

Anonymous said...

I can definitely see that haha. There are definitely a few nutcases on that blog for sure. They don't ever seem to want to admit when they're being overly dramatic or they are just plain wrong. Sad

-ajw

Sage said...

Wishing you all a Happy New Year!

belle fidele said...

Happy New Year every one.

belle fidele said...

Welcome ajw and Happy New Year!

Farkle said...

Happy New Year everyone!

Micha said...

Happy New Year to all!!

Hello ajw and welcome!

PJ's momma said...

We pulled out champagne flutes that a very crafty friend made for a millennium party and marveled that it was 17 years ago. Can you BELIEVE it is 2017 already? Crazy! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

merryway said...

Tucker's Mom is living in an altered stated of reality. Jon hasn't had full visitation for years. Duh, he's had visitation with some kids, four at a time. They will never accept the limits placed on Jon's visitation are under the court's jurisdiction. Kate's not in contempt of anything.

TM can't apply her reasoning to Kate. It would tell her that Kate's had full custody for years, so no judge has found her to be a danger her kids. Does she realize the court gave Kate more rights and Jon's supposedly fighting for rights he had at one time?

Who knew that Kate had unlimited access to mind control medication? Why just Alexis? Wouldn't Kate give it to all her kids?

They never fuss at Jon for posting pics of the kids. It's always fine and dandy when Jon exposes their privacy and the tabloids pick it up. He had the usual four for NYE. Nothing has changed in spite of the bleeps assuring themselves that Kate is getting blown away in a major custody battle. The bleeps want to believe that Kate was court ordered to get Aaden braces but the court never minded demanding that Kate produce all the kids for Thanksgiving or NYE.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-partied-on-new-years-eve-with-four-of-his-kids-w458594

They are croaking about how awful it is that Collin was not home for Christmas. Never mind that they have no idea. Also, they have been dissing the kids who do not see their father as not being as well-adjusted and mature as those who do.

Wishing everyone the best in this new year!!

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Tucker's Mom said... 59

GollyGee said... 52
Someone please tell me WHY is TFW able to keep Alexis away from Jon, her father?

I thought she didn't hinder nor stand in their way to be with their father, I foster it.
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Maybe because she shares some of Collin's issues and is also medicated and controlled?
I feel that it didn't have to come to this with any of the kids. This cutting Jon out of their lives was fostered by Kate and should have been nipped in the bud.
It's astonishing that she gets away with the narrative that she's SO supportive when the mere fact that she is not proactive and complacent with enforcing visitation is horrible for any responsible parent.
Obviously, no judge or other has found Jon to be a danger to his kids. He's had visitation for years.
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Sage said...

Merry, they are so obnoxious and just plain stupid especially a few of them like Tuck and gollgee. Isn't there a Bonanza or Little House on the Prairie marathon somewhere they could be watching?

PJ's momma said...

Isn't there a gourmet dish with a French name to be perfectly prepared? Or a race for a real runner? Or someone who needs help from a medical professional?

Micha said...

Bonanza? Isn't that show a little too realistic for that bunch? More soothing to watch the Ingalls frolicking on the prairie.

Jon's Dollar Store NY's. said...

So Jon ran to the press, sold a story AGAIN, (same old one over and over) and his 6 twitter nuts followed and commented. LOL.

I'm glad Jon had enough money to buy a hat at the Dollar Store, he really is priceless.

You would think he would spend money for cs, instead of cheesy crap that he buys.

Sage said...

Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Beach Time! 12/27/2016":

It is beyond obvious that the "system" in PA favors Kate over Jon. The mere fact she hasn't been arrested for not only failing to follow court-ordered visitation, but further, flaunts that fact, is pretty telling about what Jon's been facing.
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Again it is poor hapless Jon. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Kate is not breaking any 'court ordered visitation'. By the looks of it what kids want to see him see him and what kids don't want to see him don't. Maybe Tuck that is the court order!

Nameless in LA said...

What is beyond obvious is that Tucker's Mom is off the rails. Apparently she, a total stranger, is entitled to updates on Collin and evidence that he is still breathing.
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Tucker's Mom said... 72
Maybe it's Jon and Kate following some court order, but there is zero evidence that Collin was home for Christmas/New Years.
Nope, I don't need to know where Collin is or what happened, exactly. I just can't think of any GOOD scenario in which a 12-year old boy would not be allowed to visit home and see his family.
That is seriously terrible!
It's almost getting...sinister.

Tucker's Mom said... 80

It's like the longer Collin is away, with not a word said about him, the more I think the worst about what happened and any prospects of him coming home.
I almost want proof of life at this point!

This is just...bizarre.

Sage said...

Way off the rails! I am waiting for one of them to call the police and do an investigation on the 'disappearance' of Collin.
The way they talk one would think that they film 24/7 for the past 10 years.

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Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Beach Time! 12/27/2016":

Alexis being next? I can't imagine Kate doing that to one of the girls. Can't be 100% about that, tho.
Mady and Cara are solid safe. They are too old to give some bullsh*t explanation of their disappearance.
Funny how getting the twins alienated completely from Jon works out so well for Kate, isn't it?

Sage said...

With fake news and conspiracies being in the news right now it is easy to see how it can get out of hand by reading at Becks. They are out of control with Becks leading the way. She puts no brakes on the outlandish comments.

Sage said...

Tucker's Mom has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Beach Time! 12/27/2016":

The seriously devious thing is that Kate has gotten so very good at crafting statements which misdirect and allow the listener to interpret what they will to fill in the blanks.
Given that she's not only a mother, but one who touted her Christianity (with emphasis on refusal to reduce her pregnancy) like an Evangelist siren call, people tend to avoid thinking bad things about her and her capabilities.
Mostly because the fans are by and large good people who can't fathom what's behind the curtain.
Other people, like those who post here, have her number
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You don't have your own number so I doubt you have Kates.

get therapy

PJ's momma said...

Home sick today....reading here and there. Outlandish (an understatement), absolutely, especially GollyGee. But sometimes I wonder if they put those through so people can jump in and call them out. Because that is what happens, quite often.

Hope everyone is enjoying 2017 so far!

Nameless in LA said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 181

I think the best word to describe the Buzzes at this point is just OBNOXIOUS.

Followed by, STFU!
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Funny, I think that's the best way to describe the BL.

Anonymous said...

LOL they kept predicting that the twins' birthday would be the lowest rated episode of the season and it turns out it was actually the highest. Granted, 916,000 isn't much but the fact that they were so certain the episode would have sad ratings is hilarious to me.

-Kendall

PJ's momma said...

Kendall - LOL! Didn't they also predict that both girls would either get their own car or a car to share, as a bribe? And apparently they aren't even interested in learning to drive yet? So now of course the speculation that they have no life, therefore no need to drive, is ratcheted up. Too funny.

Micha said...

I don't know why TLC has decided to not advertise "Kate Plus 8" being on the air on their own network. There are endless commercials for "Outdaughtered" and "My 600lb Life" and "Little People, Big World" and that Heather Locklear show, yet they air a "Kate Plus 8" commercial once a week, and it's during the newest episode of "Kate Plus 8." Are they trying to see how many people will watch without the channel airing commercials? It's strange.

I remember the twins itching to drive when it was in the distant future. It's good that once it got closer to possibly happening they seem to realize it's not as simple as they thought, especially in a cold weather place like PA. Young new drivers on icy roads can be hazardous.

Mimi said...

Bored tonight so ventured over to read at Becks.They have discussed and dissected salmon burgers,and Kate's preparation of them in every way imagineable.I mean seriously these people have NO lives.What in God's name do salmon burgers have to do with child advocacy.That has to be the pettiest most asinine group of people on the planet,somebody give them a book to read or something.

Sage said...

Agree, Mimi. A good place to start would be a book on self reflection.

Anonymous said...

I believe if they had advertised it as much as they did with seasons 3-4 then the ratings would be a little better. It may have to do with the fact that Kate plus 8 is just a seasonal show (as in even when the new season ends, they don't play reruns of the show on their channel). Whereas I believe they do so with LPBW and Outdaughtered.

-Kendall

merryway said...

Yes, the all important topic of Kate's salmon has certainly grabbed their focus. Dozens of comments about the appropriateness of serving it at teen party and how it was prepared.

Bl's short fuse is showing. Someone dared to have a different viewpoint of what defines a vegetarian. Bl's so intolerant and self-righteous.

Now, if Kate had said she fixed salmon because Cara was a vegetarian, Bl would welcome all inane comments defining different diets. That way they could prove their superiority over Kate. Bl just hates it when it's not her feeling superior.

Lol, Bl certainly got wound up.


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I'm a Vegetarian Nothing that Has to Be Killed to be Consumed Please said... 14

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 8


Absolutely. My sister-in-law calls herself a vegetarian, not a pescatarian, and she eats fish.


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I'm guessing too since more people know what a vegetarian is, it's just easier to say that's what you are and avoid a bunch of confusion or questions, rather than go into all the nitty gritty details of what you do and don't eat and exactly what scientific name there is for what you are. In any case, fish is a very common "exception" to a no animal diet.
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You're not avoiding confusion by using the wrong term, you're adding to it. As an actual vegetarian, if you served me a piece of salmon it would no different than serving me a steak. I would politely avoid eating either. I don't want to be served something with fish content in a restaurant because people who eat fish decided to co-opt the vegetarian label and make people believe that vegetarians eat fish. We don't.

There are now people who eat chicken and call themselves pollo-vegetarians. Um, no. Eat chicken to your heart's content, but don't call yourself a vegetarian. It's misleading and confusing.
January 5, 2017 at 10:51 PM

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 24


You're not avoiding confusion by using the wrong term, you're adding to it. As an actual vegetarian, if you served me a piece of salmon it would no different than serving me a steak.


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Oh for pete sake. I'm adding to nothing because I would never serve you a piece of fish or actually, any food, without checking with you first to ensure it meets all your specifications because I'm not a rude host no matter how rude and picky my guests are and like most people I understand that there are a dozen variations on the theme of vegetarianism and I'm not going to sit here and try to guess what someone's mantra is.

It's your lot who have bastardized vegetarianism, not all the meat eaters who bend over backwards on a daily basis to accommodate mostly self-righteous diets. I was raised to eat what is in front of me when I am a guest in someone's home, I was also raised to accommodate someone's dietary needs who comes into my home no matter how rude and self-important they are being.

Why don't you go complain to your crowd, lecture them on what words to use. I'm sure it will go over real well.
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PJ's momma said...

Wowee. I am vegetarian and yes, I do eat a little fish on occasion. And never, ever have I EVER expected anyone to fix something special for me. I eat all the side dishes and I am totally fine with that. Self important? Some people just don't like meat or the meat industry.

Didn't she say she was gluten intolerant or something, or had digestive issues? How self important!

Sage said...

Kate's Fetid Soul has left a new comment on the post "Discussion Thread: Sweet 16 1/3/2017":

Tucker's Mom said... 97
As a parent, wouldn't you try every single last ditch effort to help your child before you sent him away?

I don't know what Kate did try, but I do know what she didn't. She didn't try sending Collin to live with his father.

I've always known she hates Jon more than she loves her kids, but you would think her fans and admirers would have picked up on that fact when she sent Collin away.

Hoosier Girl
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It's disturbing that there are so many sheep out there who not only don't question a mother who refused to prevail upon the father of her son for help (even though he has publicly BEGGED to see his son) with his his son's issues, but praise her for institutionalizing him without even trying everything at her disposal.

If that's not hating your ex more than you love your kid, I don't know what is.

Moreover, the sheep just move along and forget the poor boy like he's just gone to college.

I'm sure wherever Collin's at, it is certainly not like college
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Just stop and think here. There is a reason Collin isn't with Jon....think about it. Jon wasn't informed where he is at for a reason and it isn't because Kate hates Jon more than she loves her kids.

We here are not obsessing about what the problems Collin has or where he is at. The decision was made by his doctors, therapists and his legal guardian which is his mother, who have all the facts. Facts, people, that is what they have. I respect that child's privacy.

Tuck, Golly and the rest of the depraved empty minds at Becks need to stop making this their own sick soap opera.

Facts do matter said...

We here are not obsessing about what the problems Collin has or where he is at. The decision was made by his doctors, therapists and his legal guardian which is his mother, who have all the facts. Facts, people, that is what they have. I respect that child's privacy.
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But the whole "fact" is that his own mother didn't respect that child's privacy by bringing the subject up in the first place. How does that not bother you? Ask yourself why she felt it was necessary to do so in the first place. If she hadn't said anything, we wouldn't have known anything was wrong.

Sage said...

Facts, Kate brought it up before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. Jon has sold stories in the past about the kids with his own self serving spin on them. Why do you think Jon was not told where he is?

Kate brought it up with the least amount of facts. Why do you think Jon was not told where he is? Why do you think Jon has not seen him in a couple years?

Facts do matter said...

Kate brought it up before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. Jon has sold stories in the past about the kids with his own self serving spin on them.
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And how do you know this? Did Kate tell you? Or is it just all speculation on your part? Do you have "facts" to support your statement?

Kate sold a story(with pictures) to People(a tab), and did further interviews about Collin with her "own self-serving spin" and that's okay in your book, but if Jon did it, in your opinion, it's totally wrong.

I think I get it now--Kate is good, Jon is bad, and the Sageway Express is always right. Does that basically sum it up?

merryway said...

It's a wonder the bleeps want to jump to the conclusion that Collin was removed from Kate yet can't surmise that Collin has been kept from Jon for a reason.

Kate made it clear on Dr. Oz that she has to keep it from Jon or it will go straight to the tabloids. Jon doesn't have the right to know or he wouldn't have to go to court to request the information.

Other than these holiday visits Jon is having with the four children, I doubt that there are any further proceedings in custody. Sorry, bleeps there will be no psych evals. Jon's talk is nothing more than a way to put dollars in his pocket. Why don't any of them question why Jon would supposedly go for custody of Hannah when he hadn't seen Alexis and Collin? WHY? There was a supposed emergency hearing over Hannah and no mention of Collin? Why wasn't Jon a wreck over what Collin might be subjected to at the hands of Kate? Surely Jon recalls the details from Kate's diary. ;)

Or, I wish they would answer a very old question. Why would Jon stop filming only to sell out the twins bd to ET? They can ignore the kind of repeated stuff Jon pulls. But, Jon's true motives are recognized by the family court.

Supposedly there was a hearing over holiday visitation and Collins whereabouts didn't come up? Jon wasn't allowed immediate visitation? If Jon had the right to know, he would have been told. Jon's already wrung out a bunch of tabloid stories over the situation. Again, the court is not blind that Jon goes on tv blaming Kate and saying he doesn't know why he hasn't Collin or that says he says law enforcement told him something else about Collin's situation.

Jon and RH repeatedly used the kids during the divorce era and beyond.

The kids aren't blind to the fact that this guy they knew and probably trusted used them for his own self-interest. He "found" the diary around April 28, 2010 but didn't do anything with it for over two years. Jon brought this creepy guy, a pap, around his family and turmoil ensued. Then, they've had to deal with their dad selling stories he's going for custody ever since Kate was on DWTS.

There's only a handful of reasons that a parent loses visitation this long. There are usually steps to reunification. Jon should have at least been allowed supervised visitation. If he's only allowed four at a time, there should be a plan in place for him to be allowed all eight . That time would have already come and gone. The decisions in place have been there for quite some time. It seems that with a couple of exceptions of the kids' best interest, the decision to visit is left up to the kids.

It's really odd but I have to guess the court decisions are based around the way Jon uses his kids as tabloid fodder.

PAR said...

You don't get the picture ... at lest as I see it. I don't have strong feelings about either Kate or Jon. I do have strong feelings about the Internet bullying that goes on at 15 minutes and on twitter. I also have strong feelings about the speculation and innuendo that goes on at 15 minutes, they have been experts at propagating fake news long before that term became popular this year.

As for the Gosselins, these are the facts that I accept because I don't have to rely on biased opinion to know them. There are reasonable conclusions that can be drawn from them.

Facts:

1) Kate has sole legal custody and primary physical custody of the eight children. Jon has visitation with 4 of the kids. This has not changed as of New Years when Jon shared his pictures of the children.
2. The family has been observed by the courts and CPS for years and fact number 1 hasn't changed.

Conclusions:

The logical conclusion that I draw from these facts is that the courts and CPS do not believe the kids are in danger or should be removed from their mothers care. The courts do not believe that Jon is the better parent or even an equally good parent because they have not awarded joint legal custody or equal time physical custody. Kate is not in violation of court orders because nothing has changed in either legal or physical custody arrangements.


Facts:

1. The children have stability in their lives. They live in the same house they did before the divorce; they go to the same school they did before the divorce. (Other than Collin for now.)
2. This is ensured by Kate alone as no child support is paid by Jon.
3. Kate has continued allow the family to participate in filming a reality TV show and done interviews with magazines like people.

Conclusion:

Stability in a child's life after a divorce a good thing for the children. Kate is raising a family of 8 kids with no financial support from their father. I can't think of a way that I could support 8 children in a private school and a spacious home and I have far more education tthan Kate. While filming a reality show may not make for an ideal childhood, Kate is doing what she needs to keep the children in the home and school they have been in for years. I would love it if Kate had the means and ability to do this without filming the kids but she doesn't.

Facts:
1. Both parents have publicly disparaged each other and both parents make money from talking about the kids to magazines and/or tabloids.
2. The media has identified "Kate" as a monster Momsnd Jon sells stories that feed that image.
3. Robert Hoffman contributed to the vilification of Kate through his self published book.
4. The book did contain information from Kate's journals that Hoffman had no business accessing or using regardless of how he obtained them.
4. Leading up to publication of the book, Hoffman taunted and bullied Kate on the Internet.

Conclusions:

It would be great if neither parent discussed the kids or each other in media. It is bullshit that Robert Hoffman motivation was to help the kids. His motivation was to hurt Kate and make money. If his motivation was to save the kids, he would have given the journal
Immediately to CPS and the family court judge.. if the information in the journals was as damning as the Kate haters would like everyone to believe, the courts would have removed the children from Kate's custody.

Micha said...

But the whole "fact" is that his own mother didn't respect that child's privacy by bringing the subject up in the first place. How does that not bother you? Ask yourself why she felt it was necessary to do so in the first place. If she hadn't said anything, we wouldn't have known anything was wrong.

I don't know if this is a "fact," but it seems that Kate's main source of income is from doing the show "Kate Plus 8." This is how she supports her family and provides the lifestyle that they have become accustomed to. Now, many think that this in and of itself shows a disregard for the privacy of all her kids. Her decision, her doing as of 2009. Before that both Jon and Kate made that decision for their kids. They decided to put their lives on TV instead of living privately. The reason we know of the existence and life of these 8 kids is because of both Jon and Kate. That's a fact.

People have a right to their opinion. Kate has a right to do what she wants with her kids as long as she's not breaking any laws. If there comes a time when the kids say they resent Kate for the decisions she made for them to do this show instead of giving them a life where they have 100% privacy where no one has ever heard of them, she'll have to deal with it. Maybe that day will never come. Maybe it has come and gone. We don't know.

If Jon had the legal right to stop Kate from doing anything, I think he'd get in there and stop her. He's not stopping her because he can't stop her. Maybe he doesn't want to stop her that much anyway. It benefits Jon that his kids are financially cared for without him contributing much to their care and feeding and etc. Maybe that's why he hasn't seemed to try very hard to do anything to stop Kate and the kids from filming Kate Plus 8 for years.

Some might think that Kate got in front of this particular situation with Collin and revealed it to the press before Jon could sell the story to the tabs. I think it's possible that's the reason. Maybe she did it because the fact is that there were episodes of Kate Plus 8 ready to be aired that Collin was not a part of, and she wanted to let the public know why ahead of time. If it was just sprung on viewers once the first episode without Collin aired, that would have been much more controversial. She's revealed very little, just that he has special needs that she can't manage, and he is somewhere getting help for those needs. Very vague, nothing to be ashamed of. Kate still is in control of maintaining the amount of privacy she wants for her kids, and as of now it's still her choice.

Like it or not.




PJ's momma said...

It does bother me that the info was released - in a magazine. However, it is what it is and not much else has been said, which is good. What bothers me is that those people WANT Colin to be in the WORST possible place, they WANT him to have been removed from the home against Kate's will, they WANT Colin to be with Jon. Very little has been revealed. The young man is being treated. That's a good thing. I have a brother who needed treatment 30 years ago. You don't just 'take' them there. It is prescribed. You don't just 'drop in' to see them. Sometimes visits are a reward. Sometimes visits can set treatment back a lot. The treatment centers are full of professionals who know what they are doing. Colin 'reporting abuse' was likely drawn out by a counselor, if it happened at all. A couple of people actually think they live in Kate's head or Colin's head and know the motivation behind every single aspect of this boy's treatment and life, and declare everything as fact. When someone pushes back, they defend their 'right to know' because the mom revealed the info in the first place. Colin is a real person with apparently real issues and it is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS! They would not want their issues or issues of their kids splashed all over and speculated about, especially by people who don't like them and just want to lay blame. It's really unbelievable.

merryway said...

Micha, I agree with you too. Collin disappearing from the show needed to be explained. Kate's revealed little other than Collin is away getting help.

PJ's momma, it's disgusting how they want the children to be abused.

Meanwhile, BL (an attorney) doesn't let things such as pesky facts get in her way. As PAR pointed out, the family has been observed by the court and CPS and Kate still has legal and physical custody.

They want to ignore that somewhere along the way Jon either gave up or lost rights.

I guess BL just runs around accusing anyone she pleases. What a pathetic way to rationalize gossiping about a little boy so you can hate on his mother.

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Child abusers count on you never having enough facts to really call them out. That's why they keep it so hidden and so shameful.
January 7, 2017 at 9:59 PM

Nameless in LA said...

These are truly twisted people. Attempting to justify their obsession over something that is absolutely not their business by claiming some noble agenda is disgusting. They don't give a crap about Collin. They just want to see his mother brought down and if he has to be used to achieve that objective, so be it.

In far more important news, through some detective work by someone with waaaayyyy too much time on her hands, it has been discovered that the salmon burger recipe was from Blue Apron. And according to the BL, those were salmon CAKES not BURGERS. Make a note of that, people, so you do not make the same mistake.
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Apples and oranges. Penn State got national exposure, millions more watched Penn State games than watch Kate. LOL Kate just doesn't rate the exposure necessary to be brought down.


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Not really apples and oranges at all. The point is that when people remain silent when kids are getting hurt, it's wrong. It doesn't matter if it's one kid, 20 kids; it doesn't matter if it's a giant institution doing it or just one mother, not ONE child should ever be exploited, abused or hurt.

This is the logical fallacy argument that because there are bigger, badder things out there in the world, we should just move on from Kate. But no matter what cause you're interested in, you can ALWAYS find something worse, so that's pretty circular logic that with a sweeping brush discounts just about everybody.

It MATTERS that Kate is being called out for the child exploiter she is, even if it only matters for eight kids, one kid, or no kid at all. It's important to a lot of people to point out all the ways this is wrong, regardless of the outcome, although I think everyone is hoping for a better one that what has happened so far. Please don't scold people for taking an interest in one sweet, abused child's outcome. It's a manifestation of all the warnings and predictions we made all this time. There's an unfortunate "I told you so" component to this that one can only dare hope other parents who may be considering exploiting their kids notice.
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So I googled Blue Apron salmon burgers, and sure enough, they have a recipe where you cook the salmon first!! Apparently adding eggs to the cooked salmon mixture helps to keep them moist.


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Oh, Blue Apron. I would argue if you add eggs to it that makes them salmon CAKES, not burgers.

Pet peeve, when people use the wrong name for food.

Speaking of salmon cakes, I really LOVE this recipe, made it several times:

http://www.realsimple.com/food-recipes/browse-all-recipes/dijon-salmon-cakes-couscous

Sage said...

They are truly nuts! I hope none of the Gosselin kids ever stumble upon the have blog that is Becks. I sometimes wonder if it really isn't an online support group for the delusional.

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I'd just be happy to know that Colin is alive and well. And no, I'm not taking TFW's word for it.

No one's seen or heard from the little guy for months. How does anyone know that he's alive and well?

Nameless in LA said...

Seriously nuts. Any day now they will be demanding that Kate post a pic of Collin with holding a newspaper with the current date to prove that he's alive, and then will send the pic to the FBI for forensic analysis to remove all doubt about whether it's Photoshopped.

I have no doubt that one or more of these loons has contacted the facility demanding proof that Collin is okay or has filed a CPS report.

Farkle said...

Maybe the BL is the real child abuser in life, she targets kids on her blog.

Burgers or cakes, she's such a child. LOL. Man the dims over there sure let her put them down.

PJ's momma said...

When someone posted an instagram link, she even said the family of the hairdresser friend were ugly. Would they be ugly if they weren't related to Kate's friend? Or would it just not be OK to say?

Very mean.

Francie said...

I wonder when tonight's episode was filmed. Collin is there. And he's also on the couch interviews. They're wearing long sleeves on the couch.

Anonymous said...

It's been confirmed that the episode was filmed last January (a fan asked if it was filmed on 1/31/16 bc they saw the date on the register in the target scene on the show).

-Kendall

merryway said...

Oh good grief, the kids have two parents. I would think most normal people who watch the show feel bad for Collin and his family. There is no need for the wailing and gnashing of teeth that Bl's group feels the need to indulge in on a daily basis.

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FlimsyFlamsy said... 147

bm (#141), isn't it curious how we bitter, black-hearted busybodies are feeling such pain and sadness about C, but the fans aren't?
January 11, 2017 at 8:21 AM

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Having no idea what Collin's condition might be, I've wondered how having 7 siblings affects his situation. Not, that there's a solution for that, it's just a family thing.

I've shared on IW that my daughter was born with problems. The mental problems didn't get recognized until she was about 3yo. When she was 5yo, I was so afraid for her future. Luckily, at 13, she has outgrown every bit of it. Sooooooo lucky.

A friend of mine had a boy close to the same age as my daughter. He had similar problems but a bit more extreme. His treatment started young and was consistent. He had an IEP that often isolated him to his own classroom, had been hospitalized for short terms, was violent with no impulse control. His medication made him feel hungry and affected his weight.
He had an older and younger sib who had no such problems. When he was 11, his mother was advised to start checking out residency programs for when he was a bit older. She knew that was going to be his future because his progress was almost nil. Boys seem to fair so much worse when it comes to some diagnosis. Anyways, in supporting each other, we used to talk about the difference in our households. I was able to control my daughter's environment and keep it calm. My daughter had no siblings at home to stimulate triggers or push her buttons. When she had meltdown, there was no one else to which I had to give attention, feed or drive somewhere. I didn't have to worry about another child at home being hurt when my daughter had an outburst. Both of our situations were hard, but I had it a lot easier than my friend.

Bleeps need to realize: Not every problem is fixable. Love does not heal everything. There is no shame in mental illness or needing help.

Nameless in LA said...

Merryway, They will never acknowledge what you are saying. It doesn't fit with their agenda. (Glad that your daughter is doing so well!)

Why is this Paper Plates freak begging people to watch a specific scene from a couple of years ago? What does she think that will accomplish? Maybe they should alert Jon's attorney to use this incredibly telling scene in court.

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I've been lurking for the past 2 years. Was a long time poster. Have decided to come back into the fold. I just watched the turning 40 episode again after some time. I urge everyone to watch the part where Kate and Deanna are at the Mexican restaurant. Kate appears a bit loopy after her bubble gum martini and is now on a glass of wine. Deanna is yammering on about some stupid shit regarding their friendship and who would of thought blahbady blah blah. Kate makes a comment in response which is so telling. Can't remember the words that she spoke but the look on her face when she said it is, 'I am saddled with these kids forever' and it is not a lovely look, believe me. Please. Watch this scene. It is incredibly telling. I replayed it a few times and could not believe what I was seeing. Kind of shocked me that this shrew did not have the wherewithal to hold back her emotions on camera. Booze. The Ultimate Truth Serum.
Paper Plates Forever.

Farkle said...

Since the BL has no kids, she wants to parent everyone's kids with no medical or physical charts. She is a busy body nobody. It's sad she doesn't volunteer with a children's organization to know the difference. One size will never fit all, she is a moron.

Farkle said...

Paper plate freak tells us all we need to know. ROTF.

Micha said...

BL and her group aren't reasonable or rational. They take a small detail and create crazy scenarios around the detail. The most important detail in the Gosselin saga, that Kate has custody of her kids and is the only one who has a say in what they do, never seems to penetrate their thoughts at all. They can't seem capable of acknowledging that Kate has this sole say in her kids' lives for reason. No, any court that has decided this is the way it should be is wrong - everyone is being fooled and only BL and her wacky bunch know what's best for these kids whom they've watched on TV for years.

I'd say it's a good thing if BL doesn't volunteer with any children's organization. I doubt someone with her mindset could be helpful or could be helped.

PJ's momma said...

GollyGee/Redbird is going on about the $600 shoes again, from a scene that was probably 7 years ago. They were Nine West, SIXTY dollars! Adding an extra zero does not make them $600 shoes. Lol. She is too much.

Anonymous said...

Good Golly Gosh P J! Just imagine knowing a pair of Nine West shoes were SIXTY dollars 7 yrs ago, makes you uh, um, geez, sooo frigging whatever, I guess!

PJ's momma said...

Nice try - but it was right on the sign in the episode and I like Nine West, so I sort of know the price point.

Have a nice day!

Anonymous said...

Mountaingirllake is harassing Kate on her IG. Also know as Golly Gee, Redbird, LukeBandit. She's getting crazier.

Anonymous said...

GollyGee is insane. It's also amusing when some of the posters on the blog even find her accusations to be over the top too.

-ajw

merryway said...

Well, the new season is over. Eight whole shows. Hardly the super invasion of privacy that the bleeps claim. It is a long time between seasons, so they are right back to conspiracy theories of fake dogs and reliving the divorce saga days.

RoxyHelen somehow thinks that the dog video (yes, that old video) proves how far Kate was willing to go to continue filming. Perhaps, if Jon didn't want crucified, he and Hoffman shouldn't have shot and sold the story.
Kids love it when their dad uses them as tabloid fodder to bash their mom, right? Especially, when their pets are being hauled away.

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RoxyHelen said... 84

Here's the video proving Jon send the dogs away. For anyone who wasn't around back then, the video also shows how the media crucified Jon, calling him an unfit father for returning the dogs to the breeder and for having an affair. Don't get me wrong, even if Jon did cheat on Kate(which I doubt), yes it would be bad but how does that make him an unfit father? It would make him an unfit husband if anything. Anyways, goes to show how far Kate was willing to go to continue filming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1nfxFSSko
January 17, 2017 at 1:45 AM

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