Monday, July 21, 2014

Hoffman Writes He Can Picture Jon Hacking Kate's Email

More emails from Hoffman posing as Angela Rosario. Below is part of the emails that were sent to me. Hoffman mentions two of the kids by name. I have blocked these out. That is the ONLY change I made to Hoffman's words. I have included the emails I sent to him in this exchange. At that time, I was asked to try to get as much information I could from him.


Sageway Express <sagewayexpress@gmail.com>

9/12/11

 to Angela
 In watching that rumor fix video again I see that it is someone from rumorfix asking Jon questions over the speaker phone. How cheap and tacky is that? I am sure Ellen was manning the video.
I think it is great Kate has a website, she should have been doing this all along. I am sure the haters are going to try and sabotage it.

That reminds me...is it true Jon used to hack into Kate's email and cell phone?


Angela Rosario <angela.rosario66@gmail.com

9/12/11

 to me
Whenever there's a story about Jon, look for Panda trashing him. That's Hailey. Panda was Hailey's nickname for Jon. Asian teddybear.
I'm very disappointed that Kate went straight into exposing the kids on this new Web site. Not even a brief rest from keeping them in the public eye.
Steve gets paid $800 a day base pay to be with Kate. I'd stay loyal to her as well. Is he retired from his company?
Isn't this the guy who used to train special forces and once protected President Clinton? Seems a strange career path he's chosen.

Jon said he used to do all of that but I never saw any evidence of it. Steph Santoro was the one who sold that story to the tabloids. I certainly can picture him doing it.


Angela Rosario <angela.rosario66@gmail.com

9/12/11
You know I don't remember Ellen's. It'll come to me. It wasn't clever. Knowing how sick she is, she probably has many different names.
A big panda teddybear was one of things that got butchered in Jon's NYC apartment. It was funny.
I think Ellen is a greedy, manipulative ass, but the world is full of them. I don't like her because of the way she treats the kids.


Sageway Express <sagewayexpress@gmail.com>

9/12/11

to Angela
So, does she treat the kids bad or does she treat them how a 25 yo girlfriend of the dad would? How much did TLC offer Jon...shocked that he turned it down. He can't be making much in IT work.


Angela Rosario <angela.rosario66@gmail.com

9/12/11

to me
She treats them badly. More like an angry14-year-old girl would. I told you before about her making fun of ****** for being stupid and for **** for being gay. Who would talk about a child like that. Jon did it right along with her, in front of me.

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Shawn said...


I always suspected that Jon was capable of being so vindictive. He is fueled by anger and jealousy.

Farkle said...

I am so sad to read this if true. Who would allow someone to be mean and hateful to your own children.

It makes me sick that Hoff knew all of this and let it continue and said Kate was the abuser. May he rot in hell!

TrippenIn said...

Truly sickening.

Quiltart said...

Unbelievable!

Sage said...

I think Hoffman could have gone either way in writing this book. Kate or Jon.

I wonder why he contacted me. I think he was putting feelers out to see if the Kate supporters would get behind him for a book on Jon. I didn't bite. I never put on my blog that I was still emailing with him long after he left posting on it. I never put on my blog what he was telling me. Only a couple people knew and someone close to Kate.

Hoffman underestimated me.

He found the gulible fool he was looking for at Realitytvkids.

That's where his audience was and is.


Farkle said...

Well Hoff has nothing left to stand on, his words are nothing but evil and sad.

I can now see how Kate got soul custody, Jon and Ellen should be so ashamed of what harm they did to the children. I always thought Hailey liked the kids, Ellen wanted to make money for herself off of them. The BL supported an abuser, she deserves to see what her good friend and liar RH is all about.

I wish all these e-mails were posted together for all to read, like People Magazine?

Ms.Anonymous said...

"She treats them badly. More like an angry14-year-old girl would. I told you before about her making fun of ****** for being stupid and for **** for being gay. Who would talk about a child like that. Jon did it right along with her, in front of me."
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If this is true, it is unecusable in my book. What loving, caring parent would allow their child to be treated like that, much less join in? These are the type of people BL and her Bleeples think are awesome parents/caregivers? Makes me wonder what kind of parents/caregivers they really are. No wonder Kate was granted sole custody and some of the kids no longer see Jon.

Quiltart said...

It's not over. RH has release another "bombshell" ... claiming Kate used the "R" word in email.

Quiltart said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/kate-gosselin-retarded-email-allegedly-tell-all-book/

Sage said...

I hope Becky and her fellow lawyers in CA see this.

According to what she said some weeks ago they all use the 'R' word.

From Radar:

“We encourage people to go to R-word.org and take the pledge. It’s important because it’s respect toward everyone.”

merryway said...

I remember thinking it was awful that Jon and Heller bullied Hailey over the supposed break-in at the NYC apartment. Heller was threatening her w/jail. Jon is not good to have as an ex. The G kids really lost out when it came to have a decent father.

ROL is scraping to come up w/a story on Kate. It's pathetic.

Quiltart said...

The self-righteous minions are already denying having EVER said the R word ... They want proof!

Sadie May said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 180

I just read in the comments a typical M.O. accusing this blog of using the R word "all the time." Oh for the love of pete.

No. What was said that for those of us who work with doctors and other medical professionals, they are still using it in medical documents. In fact I just saw it the other week. We were talking about whether it was still appropriate to use to describe diagnosed special needs, and making the point that it's still being used. As for using the word all the time, the word I use all the time is special needs as no one seems to take offense to it and it covers many things.

No one said they ever use the word to call other people NAMES. That's completely different and that's what Kate did, used it to call someone a name. I assume the members of her group don't actually have special needs. If Kate were using it to describe Sarah Palin's boy and was being respectful, I'd give her a pass. That's not what she was doing at all.

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backpedaling already. I'm sure she wiped all those comments that said they all use it too.

Francie said...

At the end of the article the question is asked if people really think Kate used the R word. Is ROL implying that RH's writings are bogus?

Sage said...

Since we are strolling back and dissecting everything Kate may or may not have said, I think it only fair that we take a look at the blog who would never let that happen,

The bleeps and head bleeple cannot keep their lies straight.

Thanks Daisy!
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Thursday, June 17, 2010Kate has a ball with the kids

Sneakers and hair pulled back, sans make-up, Kate actually looked happy to be with the kids today as she trooped them out to play ball in front of the paparazzi.
Sediments by Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) at 5:59 PM

short bus said... 31
She looks retarded

June 19, 2010 at 8:01 AM

Pam said...

And the beat goes on. This stuff just doesn't ever stop.

Daisy said...

Obviously it's been established that BL never seemed to have a problem with the use of the word on her blog as long as it was used against Kate, but I wanted to post this due to the irony involved. A bleeple accusing ROL employees of bring "retarded". :


Robin said... 39
So glad to see that others agree w/me on the thread that Radar has its nose up Kate's a__.
They have a junior high girl gushing daily over Kate or they have a basic retarded intern poring over Roget's Thesaurus for positive adjectives to describe The Train Wreck. No other true celebrity gets the "gush" that Kate does.
May 20, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Nameless in LA said...

The Queen of No Self-Awareness strikes again. The BL is talking about Milo, but she could just as easily be describing herself.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 199

Over And Out said... 81
I was thinking about Milo. Not to get into armchair psychology here, but...

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Agree, very good analysis.

I do agree that there must be something going on in her life where she does not have power or control. Perhaps she has no power or control over anything in her life. She then uses Kate and the situation with the fans and non fans to take on a role of leadership and perceived power she has been unable to grasp in real life...

Nameless in LA said...

Oooh, if only all of us could be living Amy2's incredibly exciting life. I'm sure she has never purchased an item online, as that would be SO mundane. Security checks and bomb sniffing dogs and Homeland Security, Oh my!

Amy2 said... 10
Waaaay OT. Contrast my day with the excitement of Kate buying shoes for the kids.

Arrived at work this morning and there are two homeland security vehicles with armed police and a bomb sniffing dog in the parking lot. Where I work the organization is putting on a major event for the next few days so there is tight security and media coverage from the networks. The event is being held a half a block from where I work. This means my workdays will be filled going through security each time I enter/leave the building. The good thing is my staff and I have completed active shooter training. We know what to do in a difficult situation. I truly expect everyone will be safe throughout the event.

Now returning to Kate's exciting world of buying shoes online.

Micha said...

Brought from previous thread:

Sadie May said...
Watch there be another story tomorrow because Robert read what was said.

July 21, 2014 5:37 PM


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You were right. ROL continues to post these "excerpts," and the same comments are made by the haters, the people who think the articles are stupid and the people who think that Hoffman clearly has a big grudge against Kate. Lather, rinse, repeat.

These e-mails about Jon...is anyone surprised in the slightest? Did anyone expect better from Jon? This is the guy who drove to the kids' bus stop pick up on the twins' birthday with a tabloid TV crew, went to have a smoke and chat with the paps at the front of what was once his house and was chastised by paps for not being inside with his kids. LOL Once the paps lecture a guy, whose photo they WANT, on his lack of parenting does it get any lower than that?






Farkle said...

I find it amusing that RH thinks he's all that after reading these e-mails. He sounds like a guy who is so in love with Kate, used both sides against each other, and waved the white flag when he found one of them stupid enough to go along with him. Jon made his own bed, he slept (jk) with Hoff, maybe a promise of some bucks and got scammed by him. Wonder what Ellen thinks of RH telling the public how she treated the kids. Didn't Ellen have a cozy relationship with the BL? If I am reading this right, Ellen abused the kids and the BL went along with what she did to the them.





Micha said...

Someone needs to tell "Amy" that if she finds Kate's "buying shoes online" life boring in comparison to her own she doesn't have to follow Kate or know about Kate at all. I can almost guarantee that Kate's not following Amy's allegedly exciting "bomb sniffing dog" life.

Sadie May said...

Tucker's Mom said... 27

Amy2 said... 10
Waaaay OT. Contrast my day with the excitement of Kate buying shoes for the kids.

Arrived at work this morning and there are two homeland security vehicles with armed police and a bomb sniffing dog in the parking lot. Where I work the organization is putting on a major event for the next few days so there is tight security and media coverage from the networks.
******
Stay safe!

_____________________

Geee tucker, you expecting Amy to plant a bomb.These Bleeple...so dense.

HaHa said...

Daisy, thanks for the link. Somebody named short bus says looks retarded TWO times on that page. and NOBODY sweeps in and calls her out like Becky said they do. Liar Becky.

HaHa said...

Sorry Sage, I should have read the all the comments before I posted. Someone also mentioned it. Delete if you want.

Anya@IW said...

"The good thing is my staff and I have completed active shooter training."

Oh brother. What a load of crap.

Farkle said...

Active shooter training? /is this with squirt guns? / asking for a friend.

Nameless in LA said...

"The good thing is my staff and I have completed active shooter training."

Oh brother. What a load of crap
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LOL, I loved how she worked the part about "my staff" into the story, to add to the "I'm an important big shot" element.

I myself have completed inactive shooter training, with my cats, but we have not yet graduated to active shooter training. Maybe one day. A girl can dream.

Sage said...

Good thing she could take time from her staff and all that is going on to comment about how she is more important than Kate and most importantly, than the rest of the bleeps.

Gloria said...

Oh what a bunch of BS - We had Active Shooter training at my work too. It was a 5 min video from the Dept of Homeland Security and discussion. It's on youtube - Watch it and you and your staff can be trained too!! Those nutjobs over there kill me with their nonsense.

Sage said...

I wonder if Jon mocks Liz's kids like he does his own.

https://twitter.com/kinsey_six/status/491589513727062016/photo/1

GeeWhiz said...

LOL, the bleeple are so entertaining with their made up stories! No wonder they adore Robert.

Sage, poor Chabs/barhopper is going bonkers that you have Robert's emails! That is one butt hurt screwed up hag!

Waving my middle finger to Chabs/Barhopper the LIAR! Sage has proven for years she is honest & credible, you posting otherwise on every ROL article doesn't change that only makes you look like the bitter hag you are!

Sage said...

Is she really going bonkers, GW. LOL

The poor thing, I shouldn't laugh. All she wants is my attention.

Wilma said...

Bonkers is the non medical term for "being off her meds."

Chablis4U has always been slow and had trouble keeping up.

It really is too bad she doesn't have any family members that love her enough to help her.

Poor thing. Bless her heart.

Sage said...

Wilma,

Chab's obsession with me is just not mentally healthy. I tried to tell her to find other interests but she just wouldn't listen.

Wilma said...

I hope she lives far, far away from you. She sounds a bit dangerous.

Sage said...

Wilma, I'm inclined to agree.

GeeWhiz said...

Yep, she is so butt hurt you wouldn't accept her! LOLOL

OMG, can't believe Liz stayed with Jon after he proved on CT he is still hung up on Kate!

Sage said...

GW, it was obvious from the CT that Liz has issues too.

They may just be the right one for each other.

GeeWhiz said...

So true Sage. Losers deserve each other!

Sage said...

In my many years of observing couples I have always found if one, be it the man or woman, is a real loser and messed up the mate is too. May not be the same kind of messed up but, messed up none the less. No one else would have them but each other.

Quiltart said...

Gee, I didn't realize that Lix's kids were so young. I'll bet that's part of the reason the twins don't wanna hang with the little kids.

Sage said...

Quiltart,

I think that could be one reason that some of the kids do not want to hang with Jon.

I also have heard that Jon is not the nicest, bestest, bath giving when babies Dad. From what I have heard he is the supreme parental alienator. The older the kids get the more they will see it.

Sage said...

Hypocrite is spelled h. e. a. d b. l. e. e. p. l. e.

Someone apparently sent to head bleep the comments where her posters are calling people the 'r' word.

BL is so flustered that someone would refer to her blog from 4 years ago. After all THEY HAVE EVOLVED. What they have evolved from is yet to be determined.

And, I have to add...they have no problem in showing and dissecting what Kate said or did from 10 years ago.

No self awareness, bleeps.

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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 99
Thank you for finding two comments from four years ago long before we were moderated, out of the hundreds of thousands, that used the word inappropriately. I don't recognize either of those names, and I promptly deleted them just now. I'm glad this came up because I had no idea those were there. However, two times from 2010 I don't think qualifies as this blog using the word "all the time" as the sheeple claimed. If you find any others let me know.

July 22, 2014 at 6:53 PM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 100

Wow, when desperate, sheeple will throw out anything to protect the queen from herself and her words.


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Yes even comb this blog for posts from four years ago looking for a drive by or two that might have said something remotely offensive and then use that to try to claim that stands for the blog.

This blog is not the same blog it was four years ago. It has evolved and improved and developed some reliable and pretty fun regulars and I cannot imagine something like that flying today.

Sage said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) has left a new comment on the post "Kate blasted by the hosts of 'The Talk': 'They did...":


Glitter another thing is that we discussed this issue several weeks ago. Scroll back to look.

A lot of us were saying it makes sense he would take on an alias to pony up to the sheeple for information.

I personally don't like the guy or his tactics, I've said this many times. That would include IF he was ponying up to the sheeple in a manner that was akin to cat fishing. Not that they haven't done much worse.
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It appears that Becks is talking about Hoffman aka Angela.

He didn't 'pony' up to me, I turned his emails to me over from the first one he sent me. I wasn't that stupid. I think the only 'ponying' that was going on was between Becks, Hoffman and Jon.

Becks said that Jon was her source on some of the more bizarre and untrue things that were regurgitated over there. I know Hoffman was posting there. Looks like Becks was the one that was catfished.

Anonymous said...

Glitter another thing is that we discussed this issue several weeks ago. Scroll back to look.

A lot of us were saying it makes sense he would take on an alias to pony up to the sheeple for information.

I personally don't like the guy or his tactics, I've said this many times. That would include IF he was ponying up to the sheeple in a manner that was akin to cat fishing. Not that they haven't done much worse.
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It appears that Becks is talking about Hoffman aka Angela.

He didn't 'pony' up to me, I turned his emails to me over from the first one he sent me. I wasn't that stupid. I think the only 'ponying' that was going on was between Becks, Hoffman and Jon.

Becks said that Jon was her source on some of the more bizarre and untrue things that were regurgitated over there. I know Hoffman was posting there. Looks like Becks was the one that was catfished.


Yup. That would be me. Obviously, she reads here. GFY ADMIN/REBECCA. Let me clarify: Go Fuch Yourself!!

There's no reason why we can't discuss these emails on that blog. She and the rest of those bitches need to pull their head out of the sand.

WHYYYY do they protect Jon so much?? What are they getting out of it?? Jon's a pisspoor father.

Dear Leader, indeed. Whatever that bitch says, goes. I'm sick of it.

- glitter

Quiltart said...

So suddenly BL doesn't like RH or his tactics? She's spent the past year and a half praising him and groveling at his feet, hasn't she?

Anonymous said...

"Sadie May said...
Tucker's Mom said... 27

Amy2 said... 10
Waaaay OT. Contrast my day with the excitement of Kate buying shoes for the kids.

Arrived at work this morning and there are two homeland security vehicles with armed police and a bomb sniffing dog in the parking lot. Where I work the organization is putting on a major event for the next few days so there is tight security and media coverage from the networks.
******
Stay safe!

_____________________

Geee tucker, you expecting Amy to plant a bomb.These Bleeple...so dense."

Really STUPID comment from Sadie about something that's not funny.

Simon

Anonymous said...

So when ROL blasts JON, the fans love it and when ROL blasts KATE, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel?

Simon

Anonymous said...

I guess the haters aren't the only ones privy to talking points from years ago. Now the fans take their turn with the "R" word (even if it happened 4 years ago).

Simon

Anonymous said...

"Sage said...
Hypocrite is spelled h. e. a. d b. l. e. e. p. l. e.

Someone apparently sent to head bleep the comments where her posters are calling people the 'r' word.

BL is so flustered that someone would refer to her blog from 4 years ago. After all THEY HAVE EVOLVED. What they have evolved from is yet to be determined.

And, I have to add...they have no problem in showing and dissecting what Kate said or did from 10 years ago.

No self awareness, bleeps."

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Was Kate even relevant 10 years ago?

Simon

Sadie May said...

Becky's posters have evolved...maybe Kate has too.After all it's been FIVE years.For all they know she could have gotten therapy. They say that Jon has evolved but they'll never entertain the thought that Kate has.

ETA: Simon, take a chill pill.All she did was watch a video.She didn't go to a boot camp and learn how to shoot an AK47.

merryway said...

Here's a newer one for you Simon.
No one jumped on her for her use of the word.


xxxxx


Amy said... 154

Really Jon?? Doing shots and then driving?? Driving while intoxicated is, dare I say, equal to or even worse than speeding. One of these retarded parents is going to end up killing someone or their own children.

Jon is a disappointing hot mess. Not much better than his horrible ex wife. So much for being the 'hero' parent.

Also, calling your children's mother obscenities is also a form of parental alienation. I don't care what 'drove him' to do this. Have some self respect! Relieving yourself on a friend's driveway after drinking and then driving? For god's sake, he's 36 years old!

Who are these beautiful kids to look to for guidance? One parent is a narcissistic fame hungry cold and distant controller and the other is a bratty, immature, scattered loser. What a mess.
December 28, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Sadie May said...

So have they evolved in 8 months Becky?

Micha said...

Simon, I'm sad to say it's not at all surprising to me that you can't connect the dots on your own.

Let me help.

Haters are "outraged" to know that Kate used the "R" word 10 years ago (in an e-mail) even though THEY used the word in a public forum, even very recently. Yes, this makes them hypocrites - but the fact that they are hypocrites is old news. They bash Kate daily for being "abusive" and how do they do it? In an abusive and vulgar way that far exceeds what any of them have ever seen Kate Gosselin do. The haters are very lacking in self awareness. Do you think it's wrong or mean for people to point that out to them? Aww...wouldn't it be nice if the haters could just hate away and never be called on it any way? That would be like hater paradise!

Sadie May said...

Micha, you're always spot on.

Anonymous said...

In the end, haters hate on Kate and fans hate on Jon (or blogs that hate on kate). There is NO difference, it's all hate. So who is better? Jons Fans? Or Kates Fans?

Both sides seem to have a hard time "connecting the dots". Kate has said things on FILM and shown for all to see that are down right ridiculous. Jon, has done the same and even had a few "mates" that joined in.

Both sides in the Blog wars feel that what they say is the absolute truth and any differing opinion is absurdly wrong or has to be someone with 4 screen names.

The only thing both sides CAN agree on is the great Sock war. It doesn't take a hole in the heart to know that both sides DO sock, how often and who is not always agreed on.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Blame TLC for all Hate. It was TLC that edited the shows from the start. TLC included scenes of Kate being the domineering, control freak (read: orderly/super organized mom). They included scenes of Jon being the laid back follower who had to be told how to do things.

TLC trained viewers to either love her or hate her. Guess what, it worked! As the years pass, most viewers have learned that REAL in a Reality Show is subject to interpretation. Fame is a very deceptive friend.

Simon

DryIce said...

Simon...there are lots of differences. For starters I've never seen fans try to derail any of Jon's job opportunities.
This has all been addressed before though, hasn't it?

Interesting find MW.....and as SadieMay said, spot on Micha. Well said!

Quiltart said...

Another difference...I've not seen the fans go on Twitter and spamblast every article that mentions Jon. They haters do that and then blame it on Kate.

Anonymous said...

"Haters are "outraged" to know that Kate used the "R" word 10 years ago (in an e-mail) even though THEY used the word in a public forum, even very recently. Yes, this makes them hypocrites - but the fact that they are hypocrites is old news. They bash Kate daily for being "abusive" and how do they do it? In an abusive and vulgar way that far exceeds what any of them have ever seen Kate Gosselin do. The haters are very lacking in self awareness. Do you think it's wrong or mean for people to point that out to them? Aww...wouldn't it be nice if the haters could just hate away and never be called on it any way? That would be like hater paradise!"

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Hypocrisy is a trait both sides have. As you said, old news. ABUSIVE and VULGAR far exceeding Kate (is this where you are Spot On?) What do you mean by this? Opinions and comments (good or bad) made by MANY about 1 person are abusive? Vulgar? Or is it that they don't like Kate so that equates to Abuse? I think lack of self awareness is prevalent on both sides of the fence. Haters don't own the market on that one.

Simon

Sage said...

Simon,

Are you purposely missing the point?

I couldn't care less if anyone dislikes Kate and it is not abuse to say so or have an opinion about it.

Where it steps over the line is when her employers and or neighbors are contacted and blatant lies are made about her.

Nameless in LA said...

Vanessa is one sick puppy. She can't wait for the boys to dole out their payback? What, exactly, would she like them to do that she would be cheering?
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Vanessa said... 112
I agree, very unhealthy. Just another ingredient in their dysfunctional make up. It gives the "tattler" attention from their abuser, it's "positive" attention. She's actually listening to them. Survival instincts kick in. You do what you were groomed to do. The girls are the alphas, they rule. The boys just take their medicine. I cannot WAIT for the day those boys to dole out their payback. I hope HOPE they keep enough of themselves intact, that she doesn't totally brainwash them and they decide to live with their father. And please go to therapy.

Anonymous said...

"Quiltart said...
Another difference...I've not seen the fans go on Twitter and spamblast every article that mentions Jon. They haters do that and then blame it on Kate."

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HUH? Fans don't blast Jon? OK.. self aware thy name.

Simon

Nameless in LA said...

Anonymous said...
"Quiltart said...
Another difference...I've not seen the fans go on Twitter and spamblast every article that mentions Jon. They haters do that and then blame it on Kate."

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HUH? Fans don't blast Jon? OK.. self aware thy name.

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Simon,

Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. Quiltart did not say that fans don't "blast" Jon. She said that they do not spamblast every article mentioning Jon. Not the same things.

Anonymous said...

Why I am I missing the point because I don't reference that SOME haters contact potential employers? There is enough to dislike about Kate that doesn't include calling potential employers. Who's to say that the fans don't pull that on Jon?

Simon

Anonymous said...

I'm sure there is at least ONE crazy fan who has contacted Jon's current or past employers. Just as there is probably a few crazy haters who do the same to Kate. The hater to fan ratio is not equal, so you are going to have more haters doing something than fans doing the same thing.

Still doesn't make it right, just expressing an opinion.

Simon

Sage said...

Simon, take a deep breath and settle down.

Have you ever seen where fans have contacted Jon's various employers?

Just because you say it does not make it so.

Anonymous said...

Nameless, give me a friggin break! My reading comprehension is lacking? Why don't you define Spam Blast for me than.

Simon

Anonymous said...

It's amazing. I say a few things and I need to settle down. Sage, that goes both ways. Just because you say it doesn't happen doesn't make it true. That would be the same as sticking fingers in your ears and humming until all the nasty haters stop talking.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Crazy fans (I say that because you would HAVE to be crazy) if you called an employer and than bragged about it (hater or fan). The even crazier part would be an employer taking action based on some nutty fan/hater.

Simon

Nameless in LA said...

Simon,

I don't need to define anything for you. Do your own homework before you wrongly criticize for "lack of self-awareness" and look silly.

TrippenIn said...

Maybe simon could give an example of fans contacting Jon's employers.

He/she doesn't seem to know much back history.
Very stupid thing to do.

DryIce said...

I wonder whatever happened with Kate's neighbor Forrest? The way the bleeple mega-expanded that frame of the chicken coop in order to craft a conspiracy & a way to punish Forrest & Kate was just so bizarre!

Betty said...

Remember the No Netz Swimming Wear. The haters really went after that company.

Wilma said...

The poor publisher for the cook book Kate wrote was spammed on Twitter and in emails for months.

The Travel Agent for the Cruise was harassed non stop.

TrippenIn said...

The Red Cross comes to mind.
The lead bleeple was the ringleader for that one.

Betty said...

Oh yes, the Red Cross. Now that was a disaster. The BL did lead the charge on that one.

DryIce said...

Remember when Kate's niece was on twitter & wouldn't say that Kate beats the kids like the haters wanted her to? Who in the world harasses a child that age about a subject like that anyway?? Then the BL posted a pic of the poor girl on her blog?! ugh

Sadie May said...

yep, NoNetz was so abused by the haters that they considered taking legal action. They helped Kate get fired from the Stir.They called any venue that Kate was going to appear at.They called schools.They say they'll leave Kate alone if she does something that the kids aren't involved in. She did CA and they hounded her every move and tweeted her Co stars with nasty tweets about Kate. I've not seen that done with Jon. If anyone has, that's very wrong too.
The saddest part is these so called advocates are eagerly awaiting for the Gosselin children to be messed up teens and adults. You see it in their posts and tweets.Everyday.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous Nameless in LA said...
Simon,

I don't need to define anything for you. Do your own homework before you wrongly criticize for "lack of self-awareness" and look silly."

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Nameless, go F**K your self. Your a smart ass with nothing but your own level of hate, as evidenced in your comments.

SIMON

Quiltart said...

They did these things and bragged about it.

Anonymous said...

"TrippenIn said...
Maybe simon could give an example of fans contacting Jon's employers.

He/she doesn't seem to know much back history.
Very stupid thing to do. "

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I don't follow every word the haters tweet or say, just as I don't follow the fans every word or tweet. What is very stupid thing to do? That doesn't even make sense.

Simon

Anonymous said...

But you cannot say with 100% certainty that fans don't pull the same thing. Again, maybe they don't brag about it. Any idiot who does that and brags is an idiot. However that doesn't make all the haters idiots. They are non fans with an opinion that differs from the fan.

Simon

Shawn said...

Wow Simon! How old are you anyway, resorting to name calling as if you were in middle school?

Nameless you struck a nerve.

Proof Simon...Proof

Wilma said...

"Nameless, go F**K your self. Your a smart ass with nothing but your own level of hate, as evidenced in your comments.

SIMON"

Simon,

The only part you got right there is that Nameless is smart. Real smart and witty and make very valid points based on fact and not emotion and that is what bothers you the most. The haters like to say how dumb the "sheeple" all are and how they are not funny and witty (you know like the girls over at the Bleeple Hole who love to joke about rumspringa.)

People on this blog prove that wrong and no mater how you try to twist it, you can't change that the women here are smart, witty and funny. And a hell of a lot more respectful than you are being right now.

Like I said above, they debate with facts and critical thinking and not emotions.

Anonymous said...

"Sadie May said...
yep, NoNetz was so abused by the haters that they considered taking legal action..."

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And you know this how? Did they ask Bully Ville to help them out the meanies?

Simon

TrippenIn said...

Laughing my ass off
;-)

Anonymous said...

Stick head in sand and act as if it never happened. No fan bragged about it so it never happened. Whatever.

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"they debate with facts and critical thinking and not emotions."

Yea sure, that's why every thing that is said at the blog you love to hate is dissected and mocked and considered hate. Maybe some of what is said has a ring of truth and the fans can't stand that.

Simon

Anonymous said...

What happened?

IDK what Simon is talking about?

DryIce said...

A leopard always shows its spots.....LOL

TrippenIn said...

If anyone ever hears a "ring of truth" coming from the bleeple, please share.

Facts R Us said...

Anonymous said...

"Sadie May said...
yep, NoNetz was so abused by the haters that they considered taking legal action..."

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And you know this how? Did they ask Bully Ville to help them out the meanies?

Simon
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NoNetz:
They posted about the abuse on their business FB page. That was public. They said they received threats via email. It was easy to see the harassment from Schmecky and friends when their twitter account was public also. Then they had to made their account private for awhile, to stem the harassment,which is not good for a business. They also shared about the abuse via Twitter after they protected the account, so only confirmed followers could see that.. They said they filed a police report regarding the threats. Those women were very afraid. I felt so sorry for them. All because Kate positively reviewed their product.

Facts R Us said...

Simon thinks fans abuse Jon's employers like haters attacked NoNetz? You'd have to be pretty quick to attack Jon's employer. He quits or gets fired from his jobs so fast.

merryway said...

Yeesh, some people are so touchy.

Lol Nameless

LOL Facts R Us

Haters awake every day to try to destroy Kate. I remember when the show was on, anyone who was featured was harassed. They even harassed churches, a pastor Craig pissed them off when he answered back.
There was the cupcake mag that did an interview w/Kate, they had to shut down their comments. The list goes on and on. Haters have no boundaries. They love to one-up each other in their hatred.

Quiltart said...

...and the haters wonder why Kate needed security when she appeared in public. It has NOTHING to do with fans! With people threatening her every move, it's a no brainer!

Sage said...

Simon...get lost.

Sadie May said...

Also, when Kate went to the zumba benefit for the family that lost two children. They harassed the woman who had invited Kate on this womans Twitter.And they called Kate a grifter because the woman bought Kate a gift for coming to the event. I think a couple of bleeple went so they could report back to General Becky on what went down. Becky even questioned why the family had a couple of benefits for the kids and wondered hinted that the family were up to no good.
I'm not saying we're lily white but Becky and her bleeple do a lot of nasty stuff and when they get called out on it, they throw up their hands and try to act all innocent.They like to dish it but they sure can't take it. She got caught about the R word and it peeves to no end. She hates to lose and always has to be right. She's a narcissist.

Sadie May said...

I think I recall Simon posting at 15mins. Wonder if he grilled them like he has us. And trust me, some of those women at 15 are also on Twitter and they're the nasty ones.They just play innocent at her blog. Becky doesn't think she has those nasty women at her blog. She does.

Micha said...

I was going to answer Simon's response to my comment and then I read this:

Sage said...
Simon,

Are you purposely missing the point?

and thought, well that's pretty much it, isn't it? "Purposely missing the point." Of course "Simon" is doing this. That is hater stock in trade.

Okay - now to answer Simon. What do I mean? I'm going to pretend that you don't know exactly what I mean for a moment, 'kay? Simon, you don't think that haters raging on twitter to Kate and anyone who tweets her as a fan, constantly calling Kate the "c" word or saying that they hope she "dies in a fire" and etc., far exceeds Kate being seen on the show as frustrated by her kids misbehaving and getting angry or frustrated by her then husband's lack of thought, initiative or common sense and getting annoyed by that? Hmm...Oh, but I BET you have never, ever EVER seen any hater anywhere say anything that terrible to Kate or any fan who dares tweet to Kate, and you don't even KNOW what I'm talking about when I mention this "c" word, right? Of course! You're not purposely missing the point, and missing the truth and ignoring the facts - 'cuz haters and fans are all the same and they be spewin' the same hate in the end, right?

Sure. Oh. Simon? The bolded part of my response. That was sarcasm. Just a little FYI in case you want to come back by (purposely) missing the point, which seems to be your "thing."



Sage said...

This is what I am talking about being over the line. This is where the Gosselin kids go to school.


*********** *** · Jul 21

@LCDSchool number 2 report child abuse in PA 800 932-0313 U ppl r mandated reporters. Save Gosselin kids Go here:http://dhs.phila.gov/dhsphilagovp.nsf/Content/HowDoI-ReportChildAbuseNeglect …

GeeWhiz said...

Bravo ladies, for always having FACTS!

Sage that is so disgusting! Wish law enforcement would pay Ranee a visit and explain the meaning of libel & harassment!

Anonymous said...

Kiss my butt. Your sorry blog comment count went up with my comments. Funny how the sheep blogs can't get a high unique comments count. Go to the non fans and the number is always huge. I guess you could say the non fans out weigh the fans and Kate is really hated a lot. You can't stand the BL blog, yet all of you seem to quote and read there.

Have fun in your pen with all the other sheep.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Another thing, I have never posted at the BL blog. But see how you work? You make up things and say "oh I know I have seen them"

Simon

Anonymous said...

I know people are cruel and mean and say stupid things. NOT MISSING THE POINT. That doesn't mean ALL haters say those things. Kate is polarizing and you love her or you hate her. Kate is NEVER going to be liked by all.

Simon

Sage said...

Alrighty, Simon. LOL

Actually, my count today is lower than it was Monday. You seem to know a lot about that...what, have a failed blog out there?

Anyhoo, it's been fun!

Wilma said...

Simon,

There you go again talking with your emotions. Use your intellect and have a good debate. Stop name calling and swearing.

Wilma said...

Simon,

I think you are smart enough to know that it is quality and not quantity that people seek and that is why you are here.

Nameless in LA said...

You are missing the point, Simon. Nobody here stated that everyone who dislikes Kate is a "hater." A "hater" is an extremist who engages in the behaviors discussed here. You are also wrong that people either "love" or "hate" Kate. I don't fall into either camp, and I think that holds true for many people here. I disagree with many of her choices, starting with keeping the kids on TV in the midst of a bitter divorce. But guess what? Not my kids, not my choices to make. What I can't begin to fathom is the depth of obsessive hatred directed at the woman. And sorry, but the BL's blog is just ripe for the picking because of the blatant hypocrisy, the arrogance, the one-upping, etc. that is a hallmark of that place. You keep commenting on the fact that we read and comment about a blog we hate, but here you are again, at a place you can't stand.
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Anonymous said...
I know people are cruel and mean and say stupid things. NOT MISSING THE POINT. That doesn't mean ALL haters say those things. Kate is polarizing and you love her or you hate her. Kate is NEVER going to be liked by all.

Sage said...

Well said, Nameless.

Francie said...

Another difference between this blog and theirs: Other opinions are heard. It doesn't mean that we agree with them, but they're heard.

Anonymous said...

And sorry, but the BL's blog is just ripe for the picking because of the blatant hypocrisy, the arrogance, the one-upping, etc. that is a hallmark of that place


Yes! Yes, it is. Hypocrisy, thy name is Rebecca.

Until she explains WHY she runs an underaged birthing video website, including female CIRCUMCISION, her opinion means SHIT.

Wake up, you following sheep that post there!

- glitter

Shawn said...

We have full lives. We are not shut ins. We are not obsessed haters spewing out hate 24/7 about someone we do not know. Who gives a rats ass about comment numbers?

Are you that dense?

Sage said...

Right you are, Shawn.

It is much faster for me to read the bleeples because all the do day in and day out is Kate watch.

Anonymous said...

Sage said...
Right you are, Shawn.

It is much faster for me to read the bleeples because all the do day in and day out is Kate watch.


Yup. They probably know how many eyelashes Kate has on each eyelid.

No fan blog scrutinizes, nor ~follows~ Kate's every move than that one. Sick.

Can I officially undo my bleeple status?? lol

- glitter

Micha said...

Shawn, you said it all, perfectly and to the point.

I don't go to BL's blog but every once in a while I'll type Kate's name in on twitter search and it's the same people, no matter what time of the day or night, saying the same thing, over and over - no matter what. Are they all shut ins? Possibly. But I think for some of them it's an even sadder story. They have the ability to go out but they are so obsessed with Kate that they CHOOSE to stay in and complain about her 24/7. It's a sickness.

Most fans are not obsessed with Kate. We're not going to be online talking about everything we like about Kate 24/7 - it's not happening. "Comment numbers" are going to be lower because we're not crazy and obsessed with Kate Gosselin. We root for her and want her and her kids to be happy, but we're not obsessing over it the way the hater obsess over hoping Kate fails everything and is destroyed and disappears.

Nameless in LA said...

I love when the BL goes off on her nanny rants as her exaggerated sense of self-importance is especially high. Im waiting for the "my narcissist didn't give me a shout out on Oprah" rant. That one is my favorite!

I wasn't aware that "having an interest in children's law" made one a highly-skilled and trained nanny. And many nannies "are" teachers? How are they managing to do their teaching jobs and nanny jobs simultaneously?

I can't stop laughing at her "huge" index card project. She was the BEST NANNY EVER! Mary Poppins had nothing on that chick.

No offense intended to the many wonderful nannies out there, but the glorification of the nanny as Mother Teresa pictures that the BL paints is just too much.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 200

I wouldn't be surprised if she goes out on her own and hires girls for cheap. Avoids the agency fees and their rules about not turning highly skilled and trained child caregivers into the two bit dishwasher. It's not normal to blow through nannies like this if you are with an agency. Their goal is to try to keep nannies with you not blow through them.
...
But when you hire a professional NANNY you are hiring someone who generally has a background in child development, often a degree or pursuing a degree. Many are teachers or studying to be teachers or otherwise interested in children's issues, as I was interested in children's law. You usually are CPR certified, many go to nanny "school" and most spend many long hours each week prepping for the job, like a teacher would. I would spend hours researching activities for the children to do around town, camps they could sign up for, educational things we could do. I had a huge project going with them about current events where we would cut out public figures pictures and paste them on index cards and we'd learn about current events using those cards. There were so many other educational things I did, sometimes it felt more like I was there personal tutor. I was very concerned with their education outside the classroom as all nannies I knew were. It's taken very seriously and this industry has worked very hard to elevate these young women away from housekeeper. As such, you also get paid far more than a housekeeper would, anywhere from 18-25 an hour or more, plus perks a housekeeper does not usually get like baseball games and travel.

DryIce said...

ROFL!!!! I don't think I've seen the Oprah rant. It must be a good one because this is HILARIOUS!

Didn't Kate tweet recently that she doesn't have a nanny? I thought she said she has an occasional babysitter when needed.

It's funny how they have to invent subjects to discuss.

Have a good day all! Off to paste pics of Biden, Boehner & Putin onto some recipe cards!

Sage said...

That is so funny, Nameless.

Look how many times she says 'I'.

No self awareness...Beck's is the narcissist!

merryway said...

"I would spend hours researching activities for the children to do around town, camps they could sign up for, educational things we could do."

Hours researching? LMAO. "Real" nannies don't spend have hours to spend researching activities. ;)
It's so hard to look in the local paper. As a pre-internet mom, that's what I always did. In addition to that, even our small city had weekly and monthly publications for parents and families.

Quiltart said...

ummm... Read in the paper this am that BL's narcissist has filed for her fourth divorce!

Quiltart said...

Since the kids are older, Kate's helpers are not nannies..they are part time sitters. She never claimed otherwise.

Mary EmDee said...

What the heck?! Seems like there might have been a bleeple sighting I missed. Shucks!

Farkle said...
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Farkle said...

Quitart??

Can you explain 4th divorce?

stxmom said...

Hi all!

I haven't kept up much busy with work & kids on summer break We leave on vacation tomorrow afternoon. I haven't packed a single thing. Will be a busy evening at my house. Hope you all doing well & staying cool.

Sage said...

Hope you have a wonderful vacation stxmom!

Puff said...

Scoop, I have post graduate degrees in Early Child Development & Child Development although I am not nor have I ever been a nanny. I do know for a absolute fact that what the BL attributed to herself is in fact wishful thinking and isn't feasible. 1st lesson for all child caregivers whether nanny, sitter, teacher is complying with parent directives and from my experience parents are the ones who do the investigations and research esp in regard to schools camps and recreational activities.Never would I take it upon myself to TELL a parent(s)how I would guide and navigate their children in any activity.On occasion the parents ask for input usually on how to guide their kid to higher/better achievement.It has been my experience that the busiest parents, ie Dr's,lawyers,ministers,law enforcement & all those high pressure, time consuming jobs are the ones most concerned and involved with their children. Never have I encountered or would I allow with my own children any of the scenarios laid out by BL.

Quiltart said...

Farkle, from what I've heard, the BL's narcissist that she always talks about is, without naming names, Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. She is divorcing her fourth husband, according to this morning's Washington Post.

Hate Blog Training said...

"I had a huge project going with them about current events where we would cut out public figures pictures and paste them on index cards and we'd learn about current events using those cards."

Hahaha! I can see them combing through the National Enquirer and People Magazine cutting/pasting celebrity pictures to index cards and writing up their violations on each index card-
"drinks too much"
"coquettish"
"wears hooker heels"
"uses consignment shop"
"parent alienator"
"has the wrong lawyer"
"doesn't do church right"
"doesn't smile at fans"
"wears spanx"

You get the picture...

Sage said...

Hate Blog Training


Ha! very funny and right on the money.


Have to add one:

is not respectful.

GeeWhiz said...

LOL, spot on Hate Blog Training!

BL should zip it. She said the kids she nannied want nothing to do with her so she is a nanny failure.

Farkle said...

Does anyone know if Hoff is donating all his proceeds to the shelter that he so proudly lied about last time?



sixmom, have a great time!

Quiltart said...
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Hate Blog Training said...

Great question Farkle. Didn't Nosey Neighbor rat him out to the kids' charity? IIRC they rejected him just like Kate did.

Of course, he COULD donate the proceeds to the Goodwill that he passes each and every time he stalks Kate to the consignment shop.

bellefidele said...

LOL! Hate Blog Training. You made my day. The list could be very, very long.

Have a nice holiday, Stxmom.

Quiltart said...

Good morning, Lovelies! Hope it's as beautiful where you are as it is here!

Puff said...

Poor ole chabs thinks simon is the most intelligent guest ever to visit SWE.

Betty said...

Puff,

Chablis has a bit of a problem keeping up with the rest of us and she seems a bit slow.

She was terribly lost when she posted here because she couldn't keep up and she felt very inferior.

At least on twitter she can yammer away and no one pays her a bit of attention. Twitter is really an excellent place for her because the only person she has to keep up with is herself (although most days she has a hard time dong that).

Puff said...

Chabs tweet said that Simon was a breath of fresh air and the only voice of reason since she left SWE.
Seems she is her very own biggest fan. Poor chabs!

Sadie May said...

You mean she wasn't Simon? lol. Since SHE left SWE? Like she was a part of the group? She just wants a place to belong to doesn't she? I hear the Westboro Baptist Church is always looking for Ignorant people. She should give them a try.

Farkle said...

Poor Chabs, she has been banned from every site she has posted on. She can tweet away, no one cares. :) I do hope she bought lots and lots of copies of the failed book, RH needs grocery money.

As for simon, is he gone?

Shawn said...

Oh Sadie.... That is funny!

They come here and try to act superior...like they own the place. LOL. Then they end up leaving with their tails between their legs.

Same...Same...Same

Anonymous said...

For a "failed" book, RH sales numbers are near if not passed Kate's "cook" book. A lot of media outlets, not just ROL, have picked up and ran with stories from it.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Question, RH emails are filled with such horror and awful moments that make Jon & company look very bad and everyone here feels terrible, etc. YET, the "Book" from RH is filled with lies and untruths about Kate? Where do you draw the line on truth vs. lies from someone who writes fiction? Can't have it both ways.

Simon

Mary EmDee said...

"Simon" is today a lonely day for you?

Sage said...

Simon,

I wrote at the beginning of posting the emails that I didn't know how truthful they were and that they are Hoffmans words.

I don't believe all of the things he wrote about Jon just like I don't believe all what he wrote about Kate. but, if you believe all that was written about Kate, I would have to assume you believe what was written about Jon is true also.

I didn't believe all at the time he was emailing me. Some I was able to verify as not being true.

As far as his books surpassing in sales compared to Kates. If you want to compare a cookbook to sensalitionism go for it. I look at being on the same level as a tabloid and their is a market for it. Why anybody reads those is beyond me. In the scheme of things it still is not very many books.

Sage said...

Has anyone heard about how Jon seeking custody is going?

Anonymous said...

Wow, all that being said and you still posted the emails? So your readers can create wild theories about Jon and how awful he is, even if some of it isn't true (your own words). It just seems that the emails and book cancel each other out and you are left to believe what you want. Back to square one in the Love/Hate Kate wars.

Simon

Betty said...

Sorry,

I posted this in the old thread.

Simon,
I don't think RH is honest in anything he does, period! I think the emails go to show what a completely sick you know what he really is.

Although, the book already showed that.

Sage said...

Simon,


I didn't post all of the emails or all that was in them. :)

Hoffman is no Jon fan either.

Anonymous said...

So, selective emails posted (or edited). How does that sound? Like you are being just as fictitious as RH.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Back to square one in the Jon love/hate as well.

Simon

Mimi said...

All we heard for months from the haters was that Kate's book was an EPIC fail,if Hoff's numbers are basically the same according to Simon,wouldn't that make Hoff's book an epic fail also,or is that too logical?

Anonymous said...

A fail maybe if they came out at the same time. Kates book had at least 8 months on RH book.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Or was that too logical?

Simon

Sage said...

I guess the difference is Simon I did not write a book with emails nor am I making money from them.

Also, they were sent to me from Robert Hoffman. I did not go into a 'friends' apartment and take things or take pictures of everything in the hopes of making money and getting recognition.

I also, did not make up false scenarios to make the emails appeal to the tabloid and Kate hating crowd.

I did not lay in a ditch on a holiday and watch what Hoffman and his family were doing. I did not follow Hoffman and watch him from a distance and wonder and dream about what he was thinking and if he could sense I was there.

I did not make up people as sources or editors.

Anonymous said...

So his emails were good enough to post here. But when you get questioned about it, you start back peddling and throw out all the bad things he did to get the info. It's a Slippery Slope isn't it?

Simon

Sage said...

Simon,

LOL I am not the one you need to question.

Nameless in LA said...

Simon, How about you answer some questions instead of just asking them?

1) How is posting selected emails being "fictitious?" You can choose to believe that Sage is posting certain emails to tell only part of the story if you so choose, but you are going way beyond that with the "fictitious" line. Do you regularly accuse people of making things up with no proof whatsoever?

2) Why do you keep coming back to a place you hate when you object to us reading the BL's when we don't like the place? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?
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Anonymous said...
So, selective emails posted (or edited). How does that sound? Like you are being just as fictitious as RH.

Simon

Sage said...

Oh and Simon, when you ask Bob about what he said in the emails please come back and let us know. LOL

Nameless in LA said...

Quit pulling false accusations out of your ass. Sage is not "backpedaling." Her initial post with emails included the caveat that the emails were Hoffman's words and she didn't know what was or wasn't true.



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Anonymous said...
So his emails were good enough to post here. But when you get questioned about it, you start back peddling and throw out all the bad things he did to get the info. It's a Slippery Slope isn't it?

Simon

Anonymous said...

Not pulling anything out of my ASS. Asking questions you can't handle, I guess you are showing your age today right? ;)

Simon

Nameless in LA said...

You are doing precisely what I stated. Not sure what the age thing is about. You are the person who told me to go f*ck myself the other day so surely you aren't offended by the word "ass?"

When are you going to answer the questions posed to you, Simon? Or can you not handle them?

Anonymous said...
Not pulling anything out of my ASS. Asking questions you can't handle, I guess you are showing your age today right? ;)

Simon

Anonymous said...

What does that mean Sage? I have no interest in contacting him.

Simon

Sage said...

Of course you have no interest in contacting him, Simon, I was being sarcastic.

You hold us to a different standard than you do you fellow, how shall we say, 'like' thinkers.

You wouldn't dream of asking him why he emailed me. you wouldn't dream of asking BL why she said that Jon has 50 per cent custody a while back when he clearly doesn't.

My point being you are afraid of the answers assuming they get answered. Bob will ignore you and BL would not even put your post through.

I have nothing to hide and I am not afraid of what people post.




Sadie May said...

Sage is handling you and your question very well.Her answers just aren't good enough for you.
Did you know you have a fan Simon?

Sage said...

Nameless,

I guess you hit a nerve with Simon. LOL

Telling you to go fuck yourself and than making a remark about showing your age. When beaten down Simon makes juvenile remarks and disappears. Typical.

Sage said...

I wonder if Jon's neck ever gets sore lugging that halo around on his head that the Bleeps have anointed him with.

DryIce said...

LOL on Robby's "sales".

His book is free for kindle owners to "borrow" through Amazon's "lending library". According to whats being said in discussion forums for self published authors, this skews the numbers on novel rank. The SP authors grumble about that. So, who knows how accurate the figures are? The cookbook hasn't been her only book & it's a totally different genre so are the 2 comparable? Regarding books about the Gosselin family -Kate's have by far led in sales.

I honestly tried to read a sample of Robby's book but I was bored to death. The excerpt near the beginning where he wrote (I'm paraphrasing here) - From day one Kate made it her goal to marry a doctor! She threw herself at every doctor at the hospital she worked at -even the UGLY ONES!!! - told me it wouldn't be a book I would be interested in. Just silliness and speculation -no source for that info. The kinda crap that slow minds and gossips salivate over.

I prefer a good biography over rag mag pablum.

Sage said...

DryIce,

I know. That opening is so bad it is laughable.

Bob is so hung up on looks, too. In emails to me he calls Ellen 'homely'. Remarks how pretty Kate is running in the rain. In the book he says at one time Kate looks fantastic.

didn't he send an email telling how 'hot' Deanna looked in her boots at Easter?

The guy has got issues. LOL

Sage said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) has left a new comment on the post "Kate blasted by the hosts of 'The Talk': 'They did...":


Absolutely. Taking a door off will resolve nothing. It will only build a wall between the parent(s) and the child.

&&&&

Why do the sheeple always come up with the most f-ed up extreme punishments? Is there any evidence this works or is healthy?

Say you do it because a child is on drugs. I don't see why a kid you do this to won't just go find some other place to shoot up.

Here's a thought, get them out of their rooms in the first place and engaged with things around the house. There is no reason they can't watch TV, play a game, hang out with friends, or do homework in the common areas of the house. It's fine to retreat to your room once in awhile but a child shouldn't be doing it all the time. Generally it should be mostly for sleep and limited times they need a break. I noted that Mady says she spends all her time in her room. Not good.

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What an absolute self absorbed bore Becks is.

Expert on everything.
Knowledgeable about nothing.

merryway said...

Oh shoot, I wasn't paying attention and also posted on the old thread. I was hoping for an answer.

ITA Betty, RH is fickle, creepy and not to be trusted.

Simon, I wish one hater would address the question; if Kate is so awful to her children why Jon would just hand over legal custody. Cause, that's what he did. The bleeple praise Jon to the heavens but what kind of father hands over his children to an abusive mother? Riddle me this.

DryIce said...

LOL Sage. I wonder what his wife thought about his comments?

You could almost feel the drool running down his chin when he was writing them. The creeper.

Sage said...

I wonder if RH still follows Kate and watches her from a distance.

His wife has got to have a screw loose too. To put their family in financial difficulty over a book that is not going to recoup the time away from family or money lost fighting for it. And for what? nothing has changed. Kate still has sole legal custody and physical custody of the kids.

Sage said...

Good question Merryway, and not one of them has been able to answer.

Quiltart said...

Re comparing book sales: We haven't spent MONTHS blasting RH's book on every available news outlet as the haters did with the cookbook they had never even seen. The accused Kate of stealing recipes and anything else they could think of when they had not even seen the book, which, BTW, is a very nice little cookbook. That's the way THEY roll; it's not the way WE roll.

Sage said...

That's right, Quilart.

They think Hoffman's book is on the best seller list.

Quiltart said...

RH's book is #1 in a VERY SMALL subcategory of Kindle books only. No biggy... especially when most of the downloads of the book have been free. I downloaded it, but could barely slog through the first chapter. It's nothing but a vendetta against Kate. I don't care if he's a writer or not, it's self published for a reason... because no publishing house would touch such trash.

Sage said...

Dwindle has left a new comment on the post "Kate blasted by the hosts of 'The Talk': 'They did...":

I child at home and she is twittering non-stop. I simply cannot wrap my head around that.

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When I think of the effort I went to, to arrange an evening or afternoon of 'private time' with each of my four on a regular basis... Just a few months ago, i was out with one daughter (age in her 30's now) when her sister phoned her and she said "I cant talk right now, I am having a private time with our Mom." She wanted to know what it was like to have "just one"? Here is your chance, you big sac of mentally ill shit.
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I bet all the bleeple kids have shrines built for the wonderful self sacrificing moms (who by the sounds of it had no lives) they have.

and to think they did this wonderful parenting while living in poverty, fighting off narcissistic mothers and mother-in-laws, dead beat husbands, and working 3 jobs that they had to walk to, and volunteering at various homeless shelters after they cooked meals not only for themselves for two weeks but for the neglected neighbor kids whose mother was a slut.

Sage said...

Quiltart, as far as I know Hoffman was never a writer. He was the web guy at the Reading Eagle. Heard he was fired from there.

he took pictures for the rags when the JK+8 was at its height and sold them.

I think he was the one who took the picture of Stephanie Santoro leaving Jon's apartment that early morning. Gee, I wonder how he knew to be there at that exact moment.

He would take pictures of Jon and the kids and split the pay with Jon.

Shawn said...

I see that Simon did another drive by...He needs some new material...the "how old are you?...is getting old, No?

Especially when he acts like a third grader...What a hypocrite :)

Lather, Rinse, Repeat

Sage said...

Shawn, yes Simon is very juvenile. Reminds me of someone. hmmmm ;)

DryIce said...

My, I hope Dwindle didn't use those filthy words around her kids when they were little. It's funny that those that criticize Kate for using harsh words are 1000x worse.

I have a feeling that what Dwindle's daughter was really saying was, "I can't talk right now. The bill's about to come and if I have to hear one more ridiculous, made up story about Kate Gosselin from Mom, I'm gonna throw up this meal."

JMHO of course.

Anonymous said...

I was accused of pulling something from my ass... that is juvenile. I was accused of not acting my age and I returned the favor with nameless comment.

I guess the sheep have their head up each others ass and can only see what they want. You twist words that the haters say to fit your narrow thinking.. I guess it's like the haters are accused of.

Kates book is a POS. I'm surprised she didn't highlight it with her 4th of July cake, remember that claim she made?

Simon

Nameless in LA said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was accused of pulling something from my ass... that is juvenile. I was accused of not acting my age and I returned the favor with nameless comment.

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Proving yet again just how juvenile you are! I actually don't consider the expression juvenile. The truth is the truth. Just another of the many points on which we disagree, Simon.

Were you behaving in an adult manner when you told me to go fuck myself? A simple yes or no answer will suffice!

Nameless in LA said...

"The neglected neighbor kids whose mother was a slut."

Classic, Sage. I think the proportion of martyrs on that site is second to none. Can you imagine all of them together in person? It would be a nightmare come to life.

merryway said...

Quilt, it's as if they are afraid of Kate's success. They try to sabotage everything. All those fake reviews by the bleeple.
I liked Kate's cookbook.

Hmmm, no answer to my question.

Such angry nonsense reactions. Just can't converse with some people.

Francie said...

Simon, you state that Kate's book is a POS. Did you purchase it? Have you read the whole book? What is your frame of reference?

Farkle said...

If Sage were to release all of Hoff's e-mails to a outlet, poor Simon would need CRP. :)


I'm sure the BL is stomping her foot that RH played her for a fool as he was e-mailing Sage.

Anonymous said...

"Farkle said ...
"If Sage were to release all of Hoff's e-mails to a outlet, poor Simon would need CRP. :)


I'm sure the BL is stomping her foot that RH played her for a fool as he was e-mailing Sage"

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Who's being played? Seems BL & Sage share that distinction. No matter what you feel was worthy of posting, it could have all been complete rubbish and embellishments that even RH forgets where the truth & fiction Start & Stop.

Simon

Anonymous said...

I wish one hater would address the question; if Kate is so awful to her children why Jon would just hand over legal custody. Cause, that's what he did. The bleeple praise Jon to the heavens but what kind of father hands over his children to an abusive mother? Riddle me this.


AMEN. I have asked this countless times at that martyr blog run by an idiot lawyer and my posts NEVER go through.

Rebecca needs to change rule #1 to: NOT ONE BAD WORD ABOUT St. JON. EVER.

And the bleeple are all so perfect too. *rolls eyes*

- glitter

Francie said...

I don't think your answer correlates with the statement, Simon. Anyway, do you have answers to my questions?

Mary EmDee said...

"Simon" they only one being played is you by your bleeple leader.

If you truly wish to compare apples and oranges let's compare Kate's first book vs Robby's. Oh wait there isn't one.

If you wish to have a civil discussion with anyone here then perhaps you could learn to not make every one of your comments an attacking one. It really wreaks of desperation and has become old.

Showing up to a gun fight with water balloons just makes you look a fool.

If your need to simply spew garbage and run- your leader wants you back in her herd with all the other minions.

Anonymous said...

Sage, what was your question again please? I looked back over the comments trying to find it before asking for a repeat of it. I'm sure I missed it. If you don't mind.

Simon

Anonymous said...

Mary, that is a ridiculous comment. I don't attack in every comment I post. I have asked honest questions with a hope of honest reply. I don't spew garbage and I don't certainly don't spew the same "my leader" line of thinking. I don't follow anyone and press my opinions on anyone. I don't have twitter or Face Book so I am not part of the COMPLETE nonsense of any "hater" or "sheep" that threatens or stalks or spamblasts the "other side".

Simon

Anonymous said...

Although my last comment may have been a bit on the attack side. I didn't mean to attack.

Simon

Sage said...

Who's being played? Seems BL & Sage share that distinction. No matter what you feel was worthy of posting, it could have all been complete rubbish and embellishments that even RH forgets where the truth & fiction Start & Stop.
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I agree with you in part on this one, Simon, with one exception, I was not played. I knew from the first email that all was not right and passed the email on to Kates people.

merryway said...

glitter, BL's rules are such a joke. You are right, the most rigid is her unwritten rule that no one speak ill of Jon. BL is the first to leap to his defense.

The level of denial is amazing. It's such a simplistic situation. You do not willingly give up legal custody of your children if you are worried about them being abused. You also don't go run off to France, NYC, Utah, Vegas, California and Hawaii. You don't visit less with them because they are in school. When J&K first split, their visitation was 50/50. Now, Jon sees some of the kids on the weekends, and I hope still does Tuesday dinner. Until his last publicity stunt with In Touch and Eonline about going for custody and psych eval of Kate, he never expressed concern in his actions or his words that Kate was harmful to their children.

merryway said...

Oh yes, I meant to add that I wonder what magical legal scenario BL would come up with as the reason it's okay for Jon to give up legal custody to an "abusive" mom.

Some of BL's top lies, of the many she spews:
Child support disappears at 50/50 custody. Jon has 50/50 so that's why he's not paying. School time doesn't count toward support. Child support can't be rescinded once an order is in place.

So, what can she think of to keep excusing Jon?

If the minions want to believe that Kate is an abusive mom, then have to recognize that Jon handed the children over to her. And of course, gave her the right to film the kids along with it.

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